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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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I've been trying to find any info on doing the old MAF resistor trick on the new card style MAF on the LS7 but can't seem to find enough information. What is everyone doing after installing a small dry shot to keep your n/a tune then have the nitrous tune when armed or when the MAF/IAT see's the drop in temp. Thanks...
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lol...thanks Brian but we're trying to get more info on how to trick the PCM so the IAT does what we want it to do when sprayed, without going to a stand alone controler. Car feels great with zero issues on the nitrous tune but drives like **** n/a above 1/2 throttle because of the timing/fuel tables.

Wonder why some of the guys are having probs with fuel. My stock pump w/ BAP seems to work like a charm with zero lean spikes. But I've also had the big rails and 60lb injectors from the last project...maybe thats helping.
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Just get the LPE timing box. It will pull timing when you arm the n2o. They work great.
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Ground the wires that are IAT on the harness to the maf. Record IAT reading. Go into IAT vs timing and set the number of degrees to pull. Should be about 8* for your 2 stages.
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Just get the LPE timing box. It will pull timing when you arm the n2o. They work great.
Been reading up on this for days and considering it but there has to be another simpler, less expensive way. Thanks...!


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Ground the wires that are IAT on the harness to the maf. Record IAT reading. Go into IAT vs timing and set the number of degrees to pull. Should be about 8* for your 2 stages.
Haha...only need one for the C teamers Joe. We know where we need to be on the nitrous tune but we're trying to find a way to use a resistor for the IAT or wire in a relay to trick the pcm as the LS7 IAT sensor isn't reading like we thought it would when its sprayed. We're under the impression the IAT sensor in the card style maf isn't reading like the other style maf's. I may have Billy give you a call to pick ur brain.

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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 04:33 PM
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Run the resistor and relay to your coolant temp sensor. You can still set it for 240* coolant temp with the 8* of retard. Plus, if its working, you'll see the coolant temp spike on your dash so you know it's working.
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Run the resistor and relay to your coolant temp sensor. You can still set it for 240* coolant temp with the 8* of retard. Plus, if its working, you'll see the coolant temp spike on your dash so you know it's working.
Car doesn't go into reduced power mode with high ects?
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Been reading up on this for days and considering it but there has to be another simpler, less expensive way. Thanks...!




Haha...only need one for the C teamers Joe. We know where we need to be on the nitrous tune but we're trying to find a way to use a resistor for the IAT or wire in a relay to trick the pcm as the LS7 IAT sensor isn't reading like we thought it would when its sprayed. We're under the impression the IAT sensor in the card style maf isn't reading like the other style maf's. I may have Billy give you a call to pick ur brain.
It wouldn't read anything at all with the method I specified. Well it would read a static value actually. Put a -8 or whatever in that table. Flip a switch when not spraying And you get your timing back.
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This has got us baffled Joe...spent some more time on it this evening. It's not doing what we were hoping. Obviously its getting additional readings from someplace other than the IAT sensor to what we are trying manipulate. Looks like some type of controller is in the near future.
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Enabled flex fuel and fire the proper frequency to the pin to make the PCM think the Alky content is different so it uses different customizable timing.
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Enabled flex fuel and fire the proper frequency to the pin to make the PCM think the Alky content is different so it uses different customizable timing.
Did you just nominate yourself to build that device?
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Originally Posted by DSteck
Enabled flex fuel and fire the proper frequency to the pin to make the PCM think the Alky content is different so it uses different customizable timing.
I'll run this by my tuner to see if thinks its doable for what we're trying to acheive...will this also allow us to add fuel at a specific point or what the TPS see's...?
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I'll run this by my tuner to see if thinks its doable for what we're trying to acheive...will this also allow us to add fuel at a specific point or what the TPS see's...?
Another option
Use a relay to redirect iat circuit thru a resistor [ around 240 ohms] in series with the stock iat sensor. The relay is activated with the nitrous. Log iat temp which will likely be about 60 C . Shorting the iat will put you at the max in the table. Either way works. Go to the iat spark table and pull timing at 60>. Go to the injector flow rate vs iat and set 60 C> to .85 or whatever will give desired afr on nitrous [.80 is richer than .90] . This leaves na tune alone.
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Another option
Use a relay to redirect iat circuit thru a resistor [ around 240 ohms] in series with the stock iat sensor. The relay is activated with the nitrous. Log iat temp which will likely be about 60 C . Shorting the iat will put you at the max in the table. Either way works. Go to the iat spark table and pull timing at 60>. Go to the injector flow rate vs iat and set 60 C> to .85 or whatever will give desired afr on nitrous [.80 is richer than .90] . This leaves na tune alone.
Thanks for the info...this sounds exactly like what we've been trying to do but I'll check to be sure. I'll see if I can get Billy on here to join in the discussion. Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by Ls240sx
Did you just nominate yourself to build that device?
Already did.

Originally Posted by DJ'sZ
I'll run this by my tuner to see if thinks its doable for what we're trying to acheive...will this also allow us to add fuel at a specific point or what the TPS see's...?
Its doable. Having the skill set to make it work is another ball game.
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Finally got it to work as planned...thanks for all the advise!! I believe 120 ohms was all we needed to get the IAT to see 230 degrees. Was a bit more challenging than we figured it would be. Thanks Billy for not throwin' in the towel.
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Finally got it to work as planned...thanks for all the advise!! I believe 120 ohms was all we needed to get the IAT to see 230 degrees. Was a bit more challenging than we figured it would be. Thanks Billy for not throwin' in the towel.
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Gonna be ready for Saturday? Not giving you the hit!
Looks like it...depending on your whip for Sat I may need a hell of a lot more than the hit.
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Looks like it...depending on your whip for Sat I may need a hell of a lot more than the hit.
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