Meth Injection - need advise
Drifting
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From: Jacksonville FL
Everyone is talking about this like it's something extremely expensive. Personally I would run meth at a decent power level. It's not necessary but it's a good safeguard just in case. It lowers IAT's and you can make a little more power from it. Better to have it and not need it than not have it when you do need it. It's only a couple hundred bucks for a good kit. If you're already supercharged just spend the money and have peace of mind. Sure you can run without it in a stupid hot environment but you can always run a little cooler and safer with it.
As for it eating up the coating on twin screw blowers it does according to multiple threads and sources I've seen but from what I've gathered it has no effect on the supercharger.
Very last FAQ on the list.
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...icle_info.html
To me it's cheap and works great regardless of your type of FI. Is there more power found elsewhere? Sure.... but why chance it.
As for it eating up the coating on twin screw blowers it does according to multiple threads and sources I've seen but from what I've gathered it has no effect on the supercharger.
Very last FAQ on the list.
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...icle_info.html
To me it's cheap and works great regardless of your type of FI. Is there more power found elsewhere? Sure.... but why chance it.
Melting Slicks
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From: Phoenix
I just talked with Rodney at AIS for about an hour. We went over my cars combo and he recommended a dual nozzle kit with stainless lines since I want to run either 80/20 meth to water or just straight meth. He recommended two 12 GPH nozzles for me. I run 12psi up top. He recommended against a progressive controller for me. Just set it to turn on at 7 or 8 psi. I was going to do the rear cubby tank but decided to use my windshield washer fluid reservoir instead.
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Melting Slicks
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You want it to ramp up the meth as boost/airflow go up. Just starting to dump twin nozzles worth of meth at 700rwhp will make it go ultra fat then lean out a bit to super fat. You want it to ramp up so you can have a nice steady AFR.
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I just talked with Rodney at AIS for about an hour. We went over my cars combo and he recommended a dual nozzle kit with stainless lines since I want to run either 80/20 meth to water or just straight meth. He recommended two 12 GPH nozzles for me. I run 12psi up top. He recommended against a progressive controller for me. Just set it to turn on at 7 or 8 psi. I was going to do the rear cubby tank but decided to use my windshield washer fluid reservoir instead.
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Everyone is talking about this like it's something extremely expensive. Personally I would run meth at a decent power level. It's not necessary but it's a good safeguard just in case. It lowers IAT's and you can make a little more power from it. Better to have it and not need it than not have it when you do need it. It's only a couple hundred bucks for a good kit. If you're already supercharged just spend the money and have peace of mind. Sure you can run without it in a stupid hot environment but you can always run a little cooler and safer with it.
As for it eating up the coating on twin screw blowers it does according to multiple threads and sources I've seen but from what I've gathered it has no effect on the supercharger.
Very last FAQ on the list.
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...icle_info.html
To me it's cheap and works great regardless of your type of FI. Is there more power found elsewhere? Sure.... but why chance it.
As for it eating up the coating on twin screw blowers it does according to multiple threads and sources I've seen but from what I've gathered it has no effect on the supercharger.
Very last FAQ on the list.
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...icle_info.html
To me it's cheap and works great regardless of your type of FI. Is there more power found elsewhere? Sure.... but why chance it.
Melting Slicks
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From: Phoenix
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You want progressive because your fueling needs at 4000rpm and 7000rpm are very different.
Alky Control's control strategy is better, their equipment is better, and the kit is TRUE 100% methanol compatible.
Alky Control's control strategy is better, their equipment is better, and the kit is TRUE 100% methanol compatible.
Last edited by DSteck; Aug 22, 2013 at 10:53 AM. Reason: 100%, not 10%
Melting Slicks
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Melting Slicks
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From: Phoenix
Y'all got me paranoid now. I cancelled my AIS order. Talked to Julio at Alky Control and he said since I only want to control the IAT I should only use a 10-12 GPH single nozzle. Not dual 12's like AIS wanted me to run. The regular generic C6 kit comes with a 15 GPH nozzle and if you want a custom sized nozzle it's best to order straight from Julio. I will say that once you add up all the features you get in the Alky Control kit, it is actually not a bad price. The AIS kit I cancelled was a dual nozzle with stainless hoses for $500 shipped. No progressive though. That would have been another $200. So like system for like, the Alky Control would be a hair cheaper.
Drifting
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From: Kalifornia
I believe this is a "should I get meth?" thread, not a "what superchager should I get?" thread.
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From: Gilbert AZ
I agree with Julio. If all you want is IAT cooling then a single small nozzle is more than enough. It will keep intakes temps down without running so much meth/water that is whacks out the tune.
Melting Slicks
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From: Phoenix
Melting Slicks
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From: Phoenix
I need to call him back and ask about what I need for a 91 octane plus meth tune. I would like Nic to do a 91 tune so I can do a mega road trip up to PA next year.