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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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Default Fighting valve float -- Trunion Kit?

Hey guys,

My car is floating up top and I've decided on the following to help resolve the issue:

BTR .660 Spring Kit w/ Steel Retainers
Comp Cam Push Rods

Should I go ahead and upgrade the trunion on the rockers? Wasn't sure if I might as well attack that while I'm in there or not.


Car is an LS3 crate motor with a GM HotCam installed currently.


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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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Do Ti retainers if you want help with float. Trunions are nice but I wouldn't expect them to help with float.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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If you're fighting valve float I'd highly recommend the Ti retainers to keep the valvetrain weight as low as possible. Not like the trunion upgrade will do anything for the float but it's cheap insurance against losing needle bearings in your motor. The swap is easy and quite fun actually.

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Hey guys,

My car is floating up top and I've decided on the following to help resolve the issue:

BTR .660 Spring Kit w/ Steel Retainers
Comp Cam Push Rods

Should I go ahead and upgrade the trunion on the rockers? Wasn't sure if I might as well attack that while I'm in there or not.


Car is an LS3 crate motor with a GM HotCam installed currently.


Thanks!
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Phew! Sure am glad that I posted here before I hit the purchase button! lol...

Would I achieve any benefit by just upgrading the rockers at the same time? I only want to do it once if I'm going to do it. (I only drive the car about 5-7k a year)

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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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No benefit for float from rockers. Only way would be a lighter rocker but no one makes a lighter than OEM rocker, all of them are heavier.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:15 AM
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IIRC, the factory rockers are already pretty lightweight.

I've read many stories about aftermarket rockers being heavier than the stock rockers and causing valve float issues.

Good valvesprings and lightweight retainers are usually a good option... and alot of guys actually seem to prefer the stock rockers.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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Are you sure you are floating valves and not hitting the rev limiter ?
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragracer_Art
Are you sure you are floating valves and not hitting the rev limiter ?
You gotta give me a little more credit than that! Sheesh. Yes it's floating the valves between 6k-6500. If I had the dyno sheet here I could show ya... I'll post it later this evening.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 99NassauVette
You gotta give me a little more credit than that! Sheesh. Yes it's floating the valves between 6k-6500. If I had the dyno sheet here I could show ya... I'll post it later this evening.
Well I HAD to ask...
Your trunnion question wasn't exactly a question I'd expect from a well-seasoned throttle jockey.
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Old Oct 4, 2013 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragracer_Art
Well I HAD to ask...
Your trunnion question wasn't exactly a question I'd expect from a well-seasoned throttle jockey.
lol fair enough.. I've just never upgraded trunions before... generally we just swap for different rockers, Learning now that it doesn't help much on the LS3. So trunion upgrade here I come!
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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 07:48 AM
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i was using yell terra but had float, whent back to stock and everything is good
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 02:04 AM
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I'd say definitely do the trunions! why wouldn't you? Since you'll have it apart it's the perfect time for a cheap and easy upgrade! You don't want the stock careless needle bearings to explode all throughout your motor!
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 05:55 AM
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^i've seen a lot more upgraded trunion failures over stock. That's why I personally wouldn't do it.
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Old Oct 7, 2013 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by narfdanarf
^i've seen a lot more upgraded trunion failures over stock. That's why I personally wouldn't do it.
I too have read about some failures with the upgraded trunnions. I don't know if it's an install issue or a bad component. You can do some searching and see pics where they look galled. I personally just left my rockers stock and I usually shift around 6700-6800rpm with a 7000rpm rev limit. I'm using the BTR dual springs with tool steel retainers also.
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 11:47 PM
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Failures are most likely from someone using a vise as a press.

Like most things, it's the small details that can cause big trauma.
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...-a-rocker.html

How did the heads/chambers look during the lifter replacement
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveDotenMotorsports
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...-a-rocker.html How did the heads/chambers look during the lifter replacement
They look perfect considering we dropped a brand new LS3 into her. the valve float is on a brand new motor.
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