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#2041
Burning Brakes
Not yet on the 102. Long Michigan winter. Waiting for some Black Friday sales. Just bought the stage 1 E85 fuel system and flex fuel sensor. Gonna be a fun spring!
#2043
Sammy, Don't know if you have been asked this before but do you have a lot of street rods down there that you run into on the street on a normal day, other than the video you showed at the strip. Curious minds want to know. Oh and have a great Thanksgiving to you and everyone on this thread.
Here’s a link to a gallery of one of our events on our website. If you browse through those, you’ll get an idea of what kind of vehicles are racing down here.
https://caymanracing.ky/uprising/
#2044
Burning Brakes
Thanks Sammy nice pics, And nice ones of your ride.
#2045
Ordered all the stuff for the 8-rib conversion, so I’ll be doing that at some point in the near future. Got a 97.45” green belt and a slightly longer 98” Dayco belt from Rockauto, just in case the green one is too short. The 8-rib accessory pulley kit is on the way from IW. Meanwhile the 3.2” GripTech pulley, which was the first thing I ordered, has been returned to Z-Inducstries by UPS, because they forgot to put a friggin invoice on the packet for international shipment. Pure genius.
Since that’s delayed, I may just pull out the right front fender liner this weekend and swap out the Bosch H/X pump for the ZL1 pump.
Since that’s delayed, I may just pull out the right front fender liner this weekend and swap out the Bosch H/X pump for the ZL1 pump.
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Chiselchst (11-21-2018)
#2046
Drifting
I'm stoked to follow your IC pump change out results - I've had my car in 2-3 shops, and brought my ZR1 pump in and asked them to install it, but they all said it wouldn't fit. I told them some fab would be required when I dropped it off...with my bad back I haven't even looked at my Hx system too closely.
Also excited to follow the 8-rib belt conversion! I thought that had all but died, so it's cool to see that an option! When I have me knee replaced in the spring, and get off disability and retire, I might be able to access some $$$ and do my engine upgrade (CNC heads, cam & e85). We only live once!
Thanks so much Sammy for always sharing your projects! It's so appreciated...
FWIW, we finally are getting some rain here, and can breath the air again. The fires here have been unreal! A whole town burned down, hundreds missing. Grateful to be safe and (semi) healthy...
Also excited to follow the 8-rib belt conversion! I thought that had all but died, so it's cool to see that an option! When I have me knee replaced in the spring, and get off disability and retire, I might be able to access some $$$ and do my engine upgrade (CNC heads, cam & e85). We only live once!
Thanks so much Sammy for always sharing your projects! It's so appreciated...
FWIW, we finally are getting some rain here, and can breath the air again. The fires here have been unreal! A whole town burned down, hundreds missing. Grateful to be safe and (semi) healthy...
#2047
I'm stoked to follow your IC pump change out results - I've had my car in 2-3 shops, and brought my ZR1 pump in and asked them to install it, but they all said it wouldn't fit. I told them some fab would be required when I dropped it off...with my bad back I haven't even looked at my Hx system too closely.
Also excited to follow the 8-rib belt conversion! I thought that had all but died, so it's cool to see that an option! When I have me knee replaced in the spring, and get off disability and retire, I might be able to access some $$$ and do my engine upgrade (CNC heads, cam & e85). We only live once!
Thanks so much Sammy for always sharing your projects! It's so appreciated...
FWIW, we finally are getting some rain here, and can breath the air again. The fires here have been unreal! A whole town burned down, hundreds missing. Grateful to be safe and (semi) healthy...
Also excited to follow the 8-rib belt conversion! I thought that had all but died, so it's cool to see that an option! When I have me knee replaced in the spring, and get off disability and retire, I might be able to access some $$$ and do my engine upgrade (CNC heads, cam & e85). We only live once!
Thanks so much Sammy for always sharing your projects! It's so appreciated...
FWIW, we finally are getting some rain here, and can breath the air again. The fires here have been unreal! A whole town burned down, hundreds missing. Grateful to be safe and (semi) healthy...
On the HX pump, I’m even thinking I might rig the BAP to it and see how that works. I’ve mentioned this before and I don’t know if anyone has tried it, but I figure it can’t hurt, unless the damn motor burns up, which isn’t a big deal for me. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, right? I’m sure that it will take a bit of fabricating to get the ZL1 pump to work too, since that’s shorter and fatter than the Bosch.
I’m pretty sure that a flex fuel install and the requisite injector upgrade is in my future as well, but I need to figure out if I have enough fuel system to support that, because I’ll be damned if I’m dropping the tanks to frig around with installing a double or triple pump setup. I’ll throw a cell in the back of it and do a dedicated return system first.
Right now, I need to concentrate on getting the car to hook. Hopefully, the 15” conversion will sort that out. We’re also working hard at the track to rewire the timing system, so maybe, with a bit of luck, I’ll have a timing slip soon. Hopefully, it won’t be too embarrassing.
Last edited by CI GS; 11-22-2018 at 07:38 AM.
#2048
Drifting
Traction - not a bad problem to have...the 15's should help quite a bit IMHO.
Love the BAP idea, I can't see why that shouldn't work. Commonly done with many electric motors.
I hear you on the fuel cell. They sure didn't make it easy to upgrade the fuel pumps/systems!
Love the BAP idea, I can't see why that shouldn't work. Commonly done with many electric motors.
I hear you on the fuel cell. They sure didn't make it easy to upgrade the fuel pumps/systems!
#2049
Burning Brakes
Gents - In addition to the fuel system for E85, I had to order the Innovator West lower from Juiced Motorsports as their pricing was amazing.
I have the pin kit from the heartbeat original kit still. Can that be used again for this? Also, use the bolt that comes with the pulley or ARP? I currently have an ARP on the stock balancer.
Lastly, remove steering rack or lower the cradle for install? Thoughts?
Going for the gusto in the spring.... god I hope this trans holds together...
I have the pin kit from the heartbeat original kit still. Can that be used again for this? Also, use the bolt that comes with the pulley or ARP? I currently have an ARP on the stock balancer.
Lastly, remove steering rack or lower the cradle for install? Thoughts?
Going for the gusto in the spring.... god I hope this trans holds together...
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CI GS (11-28-2018)
#2050
Gents - In addition to the fuel system for E85, I had to order the Innovator West lower from Juiced Motorsports as their pricing was amazing.
I have the pin kit from the heartbeat original kit still. Can that be used again for this? Also, use the bolt that comes with the pulley or ARP? I currently have an ARP on the stock balancer.
Lastly, remove steering rack or lower the cradle for install? Thoughts?
Going for the gusto in the spring.... god I hope this trans holds together...
I have the pin kit from the heartbeat original kit still. Can that be used again for this? Also, use the bolt that comes with the pulley or ARP? I currently have an ARP on the stock balancer.
Lastly, remove steering rack or lower the cradle for install? Thoughts?
Going for the gusto in the spring.... god I hope this trans holds together...
You also need to use the IW crank bolt that comes with the balancer. Their instructions specifically state that, IIRC.
I would pull the rack, but that’s only because after having to do it twice (don’t ask), I developed a relatively easy way to take the whole rack out through the top of the engine bay. The gory details are buried in a post somewhere earlier on in this now unwieldy thread.
Glad to hear that you’re going to take that thing to the next level. Don’t worry about the trans, it’ll be fine.
Last edited by CI GS; 11-26-2018 at 10:02 AM.
#2051
Burning Brakes
Went with the 10% over 8 rib. I do not want t do this again so in prep for future mods I went with the 8 rib. Been reading horror stories all morning about how to do the install. I really should have done this when I did the cam.... ugh
i need to find your install write up now
i need to find your install write up now
#2052
I went ahead and installed the BAP on the HX pump tonight. It was pretty easy - hardest part was figuring out where to put it. I ended up deciding that the only place to mount it was under the right fender where it meets the cowl, behind the HX coolant tank. Once I figured that out, it was just a matter of making a bracket to mount it and everything else after that was pretty straightforward. I tested it by turning the key on to run the pump and then bridged the Hobbs switch wires, and I could hear a noticeable difference in the sound of the pump and the flow of coolant through the HX tank. I’ll see how it works at the track this Sunday, if the weather holds.
EDIT: For clarification, I’m using the Hobbs to only activate the BAP when under boost, since that’s the only time I would really need it, other than after a burnout or so. During normal cruising, my IATs stay just about or slightly above ambient. If it looks like it helps, I may re-rig it in the future for manual activation so that I can run the pump at higher voltage during and after a burnout and throughout a run.
EDIT: For clarification, I’m using the Hobbs to only activate the BAP when under boost, since that’s the only time I would really need it, other than after a burnout or so. During normal cruising, my IATs stay just about or slightly above ambient. If it looks like it helps, I may re-rig it in the future for manual activation so that I can run the pump at higher voltage during and after a burnout and throughout a run.
Last edited by CI GS; 11-28-2018 at 10:08 AM.
#2053
Instructor
Have you guys seen what the Aussies are doing? They are basically running part of their AC system into the intercooler on the heartbeat.
https://fiinterchillers.com/products/
https://fiinterchillers.com/products/
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#2054
Burning Brakes
That is very interesting. I wonder if it collects condensation under the lid of the supercharger. No price on the web page that I saw.I have to belief that Sammy should have one and report back to us, It is always 85 degrees down there. Heck I would like one up here for my 3 months of hot weather. By the way nice install Sammy
Last edited by scottg; 11-28-2018 at 07:07 AM.
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CI GS (11-28-2018)
#2055
Have you guys seen what the Aussies are doing? They are basically running part of their AC system into the intercooler on the heartbeat.
https://fiinterchillers.com/products/
https://fiinterchillers.com/products/
I would need to know some more about it before I pulled the trigger on one, though, and I would need to know for sure that it wouldn’t compromise my air conditioning, because I’m not giving up any comfort in this car. I already have a race car that I got sick of sweating my *** off in. At our track, we mandate that all A/ C systems have to be turned off. I cannot understand how it would be possible to run the system “in race mode” on track without condensation dripping from the car. And then there’s the fact that when you go WOT, the AC compressor trips out, for good reason. I know what it sounds like to grenade one of those suckers. Did that in my old 1998 Z28 and it scared the living **** out of me.
#2056
That is very interesting. I wonder if it collects condensation under the lid of the supercharger. No price on the web page that I saw.I have to belief that Sammy should have one and report back to us, It is always 85 degrees down there. Heck I would like one up here for my 3 months of hot weather. By the way nice install Sammy
I’m going to stick with the BAP and some chemical cooling until I can upgrade the fuel system and injectors and go Flex fuel on this b!tch. All I want to do is get the 8-rib setup on it, but USPS appears to be playing games shipping my IW pulley set all over the US (it’s been through the Chicago facility 3 times now!) and I can’t even get hold of Z-industries since UPS returned my pulley last week because they hadn’t included an invoice. Who would’ve thought it would be so goddamn difficult to ship a bunch of pulleys? Rockauto on the other hand, fedexed my belts out the same day and I had them in my hand by the end of the next day. Man, I love those guys.
BTW: Guess what temp it is outside right now? Yep, 85 frickin degrees.
#2057
Drifting
Nice job Sammy!
I'd like the option to run the Hx pump (w/ or w/o the BAP) when the car is parked - to help cool back down. I might wire a manual bypass if I do the next round of mods. I like the idea to be able to cool down when parked (maybe even with a fan)
Mine cools down quickly once started after being parked for a bit, but I think it would cool down better if starting from a lower temp.
If you get that baby to hook, get the 8-rib up and running, damn...you will be frickin' hard to beat!
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Refrigerant -> inter-cooler = nice. I imagined they would just chill the IC water. Makes more sense to do it the other way though, as long as nothing leaks, LOL
Regarding the HVAC / Induction system, I understand(?) the Demon has that also?
I think it's a great idea, as long the *cabin* is comfortable. I'm with Sammy - must be comfortable inside
I'd like the option to run the Hx pump (w/ or w/o the BAP) when the car is parked - to help cool back down. I might wire a manual bypass if I do the next round of mods. I like the idea to be able to cool down when parked (maybe even with a fan)
Mine cools down quickly once started after being parked for a bit, but I think it would cool down better if starting from a lower temp.
If you get that baby to hook, get the 8-rib up and running, damn...you will be frickin' hard to beat!
++++++++++++++++
Refrigerant -> inter-cooler = nice. I imagined they would just chill the IC water. Makes more sense to do it the other way though, as long as nothing leaks, LOL
Regarding the HVAC / Induction system, I understand(?) the Demon has that also?
I think it's a great idea, as long the *cabin* is comfortable. I'm with Sammy - must be comfortable inside
Last edited by Chiselchst; 11-28-2018 at 08:18 PM.
#2058
Nice job Sammy!
I'd like the option to run the Hx pump (w/ or w/o the BAP) when the car is parked - to help cool back down. I might wire a manual bypass if I do the next round of mods. I like the idea to be able to cool down when parked (maybe even with a fan)
Mine cools down quickly once started after being parked for a bit, but I think it would cool down better if starting from a lower temp.
If you get that baby to hook, get the 8-rib up and running, damn...you will be frickin' hard to beat!
++++++++++++++++
Refrigerant -> inter-cooler = nice. I imagined they would just chill the IC water. Makes more sense to do it the other way though, as long as nothing leaks, LOL
Regarding the HVAC / Induction system, I understand(?) the Demon has that also?
I think it's a great idea, as long the *cabin* is comfortable. I'm with Sammy - must be comfortable inside
I'd like the option to run the Hx pump (w/ or w/o the BAP) when the car is parked - to help cool back down. I might wire a manual bypass if I do the next round of mods. I like the idea to be able to cool down when parked (maybe even with a fan)
Mine cools down quickly once started after being parked for a bit, but I think it would cool down better if starting from a lower temp.
If you get that baby to hook, get the 8-rib up and running, damn...you will be frickin' hard to beat!
++++++++++++++++
Refrigerant -> inter-cooler = nice. I imagined they would just chill the IC water. Makes more sense to do it the other way though, as long as nothing leaks, LOL
Regarding the HVAC / Induction system, I understand(?) the Demon has that also?
I think it's a great idea, as long the *cabin* is comfortable. I'm with Sammy - must be comfortable inside
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CI GS .....
I was initially concerned with possible belt slip after installing my Maggie on my GS, but I never got any on the dyno pulls. I am thinking that since I only make a max of 7 1/2 PSI of boost and only spin the engine to 6,300 rpm that belt slip should continue to be a non-issue for me.
But, I am just curious as to at what boost levels were you at when belt slip reared it's ugly head for you ... Had to be at a point well above 7 1/2 PSI.
Ron,
I was initially concerned with possible belt slip after installing my Maggie on my GS, but I never got any on the dyno pulls. I am thinking that since I only make a max of 7 1/2 PSI of boost and only spin the engine to 6,300 rpm that belt slip should continue to be a non-issue for me.
But, I am just curious as to at what boost levels were you at when belt slip reared it's ugly head for you ... Had to be at a point well above 7 1/2 PSI.
Ron,
#2060
CI GS .....
I was initially concerned with possible belt slip after installing my Maggie on my GS, but I never got any on the dyno pulls. I am thinking that since I only make a max of 7 1/2 PSI of boost and only spin the engine to 6,300 rpm that belt slip should continue to be a non-issue for me.
But, I am just curious as to at what boost levels were you at when belt slip reared it's ugly head for you ... Had to be at a point well above 7 1/2 PSI.
Ron,
I was initially concerned with possible belt slip after installing my Maggie on my GS, but I never got any on the dyno pulls. I am thinking that since I only make a max of 7 1/2 PSI of boost and only spin the engine to 6,300 rpm that belt slip should continue to be a non-issue for me.
But, I am just curious as to at what boost levels were you at when belt slip reared it's ugly head for you ... Had to be at a point well above 7 1/2 PSI.
Ron,
I’ve been trying to contact Z-Industries all week to find out where the hell my new 3.2” 8-rib is. I’ve made one or two calls every day at different times and sent them online messages, to no avail, ever since UPS shipped the pulley back to them because they didn’t include an invoice. They sent me an apology message last Friday and said they would ship it back out, but I have not been able to get hold of them ever since. They don’t even have a voice mail service. Not sure what to make of that...
Last edited by CI GS; 11-30-2018 at 02:17 PM.