Twin turbo kits
11-12-2013, 02:48 PM
#41
anyone have a website for the DKT TT kit?
11-12-2013, 02:53 PM
#42
I'm running a ECS Ysi kit with 8 rib and direct drive. If I had to go back I would do a 10 rib/DD with 6 rib ac setup right away. For your needs that maybe overkill.
I would start with a 6 rib setup with a Direct drive. Then if you have belt issues you just need a balance and blower pulley. In my opinion it is a much better setup than swapping the PS and alternator pulley to 8 rib. Plus it gets tension off those accessories.
I would start with a 6 rib setup with a Direct drive. Then if you have belt issues you just need a balance and blower pulley. In my opinion it is a much better setup than swapping the PS and alternator pulley to 8 rib. Plus it gets tension off those accessories.
Is it expensive to go DD?
And is it difficult to convert the A&A to DD?
Last edited by Al3x_666; 11-12-2013 at 03:02 PM.
11-12-2013, 04:26 PM
#43
Team Owner
That being said, DKT is the way to go if you want turbo bolt on kit.
11-13-2013, 12:35 PM
#44
Le Mans Master
11-14-2013, 12:51 PM
#45
Former Vendor
What Devin@ DKT has done is take an already great designed kit (APS no longer made) and simply made it much better, with higher quality components, a higher power ceiling, and great customer service. Yes it will cost much more then a basic A&A kit, but you are getting a 1100+ Rwhp kit right off the bat (with no additional system upgrades), in addition no need for headers either as the turbo system replaces all that ( little extra savings lol).. it is tough to compare a supercharger system to a quality turbo system, both have there advantages/disadvantages , ultimately its up to end user and tuners evaluation of what they want to achieve and how. If anyone is local to Southern California or would like to make the trek out here. I can make you a great deal on a DKT system installed and tuned.
11-14-2013, 04:26 PM
#48
Melting Slicks
11-14-2013, 11:36 PM
#49
Former Vendor
You guys are seriously joking about DKT being better quality than the APS system?
The APS kits built for the C6Z had ZERO issues. Maybe a coupler re-route. Zero issues. No turbo failures. No header problems. Nothing.
The C6 was internal gated. It was just cramped and turbo limited.
The Camaro kit had ****** Chinese turbos. Thats it. If you Made more than 800rwhp, you sucked the inlets shut.
So, to look at the 50+ page APS install docs, and rediculously engineered kits they made- no offense to DKT- he paid to have a turbine housing made by precision, but to say its going to be "better than" the APS is plain foolish. No offense devon, but dude. C'mon. I applaud you for making parts. I know APS quality- as a whole- and there's really
No one even close.
The APS kits built for the C6Z had ZERO issues. Maybe a coupler re-route. Zero issues. No turbo failures. No header problems. Nothing.
The C6 was internal gated. It was just cramped and turbo limited.
The Camaro kit had ****** Chinese turbos. Thats it. If you Made more than 800rwhp, you sucked the inlets shut.
So, to look at the 50+ page APS install docs, and rediculously engineered kits they made- no offense to DKT- he paid to have a turbine housing made by precision, but to say its going to be "better than" the APS is plain foolish. No offense devon, but dude. C'mon. I applaud you for making parts. I know APS quality- as a whole- and there's really
No one even close.
11-14-2013, 11:44 PM
#50
Wow...I know I've sure seen plenty of people post their bitches and gripes about the APS kits, and I've also seen plenty praise Devin for his upgrades, and how much better the kits perform now with the DKT hardware.
So I would have to say for you to come on and praise a company that is now defunct, and try to downplay Devin for his efforts, makes you seem somewhat petty
So I would have to say for you to come on and praise a company that is now defunct, and try to downplay Devin for his efforts, makes you seem somewhat petty
Last edited by Big Reade; 11-14-2013 at 11:50 PM.
11-14-2013, 11:55 PM
#51
Former Vendor
You guys are seriously joking about DKT being better quality than the APS system?
The APS kits built for the C6Z had ZERO issues. Maybe a coupler re-route. Zero issues. No turbo failures. No header problems. Nothing.
The C6 was internal gated. It was just cramped and turbo limited.
The Camaro kit had ****** Chinese turbos. Thats it. If you Made more than 800rwhp, you sucked the inlets shut.
So, to look at the 50+ page APS install docs, and rediculously engineered kits they made- no offense to DKT- he paid to have a turbine housing made by precision, but to say its going to be "better than" the APS is plain foolish. No offense devon, but dude. C'mon. I applaud you for making parts. I know APS quality- as a whole- and there's really
No one even close.
The APS kits built for the C6Z had ZERO issues. Maybe a coupler re-route. Zero issues. No turbo failures. No header problems. Nothing.
The C6 was internal gated. It was just cramped and turbo limited.
The Camaro kit had ****** Chinese turbos. Thats it. If you Made more than 800rwhp, you sucked the inlets shut.
So, to look at the 50+ page APS install docs, and rediculously engineered kits they made- no offense to DKT- he paid to have a turbine housing made by precision, but to say its going to be "better than" the APS is plain foolish. No offense devon, but dude. C'mon. I applaud you for making parts. I know APS quality- as a whole- and there's really
No one even close.
11-14-2013, 11:57 PM
#52
That was a much better way to put it Ryne, and I apologize if my previous post sounds rash. I just thought that was a pretty brass statement, especialy coming from a supporting vendor.
11-14-2013, 11:59 PM
#53
Former Vendor
APS did a great job of engineering
Show me what upset people about APS? I've been in this performance
World before incon. I didn't just show up today.
For someone to claim a better kit than the APS, prove to me how it is? Sure, the PTE billet wheeled turbos support more power, but that doesnt make it a better kit? I'm not even sure DKT has a "kit"? He's copied most everything from the APS kit so far, but nothing is cast. Nothing is engineered. Everything is kinda built in a way that emulates the APS system but not even a good copy?
Show me what upset people about APS? I've been in this performance
World before incon. I didn't just show up today.
For someone to claim a better kit than the APS, prove to me how it is? Sure, the PTE billet wheeled turbos support more power, but that doesnt make it a better kit? I'm not even sure DKT has a "kit"? He's copied most everything from the APS kit so far, but nothing is cast. Nothing is engineered. Everything is kinda built in a way that emulates the APS system but not even a good copy?
11-15-2013, 12:02 AM
#54
Former Vendor
Ryne, show me the DKT kit. It's not even a kit. You can't buy a kit. You can get some parts! You can get turbos!
You can get a slip manifold that's not cast, and going to do what under 50+ psi back pressure glowing red hot.
But show me the kit. I've yet to see it. Because it only exists in pieces. And pics via text.
You can get a slip manifold that's not cast, and going to do what under 50+ psi back pressure glowing red hot.
But show me the kit. I've yet to see it. Because it only exists in pieces. And pics via text.
11-15-2013, 12:05 AM
#55
Well, since I never owned an APS kit, I can't speak on what exactly was the issues, because it's all second hand, but from what I've read, the biggest complaint was sub standard quality parts.
And what would be the issues with taking something that's good, and going through and improving upon what you've found to be an issue? Especially since the company is not producing it any more.
Sorry, I'm new to the forums, in fact, I probably don't belong here, as I am new to performance, and V Tech is still fast to me...
And what would be the issues with taking something that's good, and going through and improving upon what you've found to be an issue? Especially since the company is not producing it any more.
Sorry, I'm new to the forums, in fact, I probably don't belong here, as I am new to performance, and V Tech is still fast to me...
Last edited by Big Reade; 11-15-2013 at 12:07 AM.
11-15-2013, 12:08 AM
#56
Former Vendor
Like I said devon, its not a kit dude. I call A&A, I get a kit in a few days. I call turbo technology, I get a kit in a week or two.
Those are kits.
Yours is not.
You realize your turbos for the Camaro, yes, your turbos only, cost more than the entire kit cost? You sell some turbos, for sure. As for failures, every single failure that came back- which was less than 5%, we're repaired and replaced. Most due
To poor oil.
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Those are kits.
Yours is not.
You realize your turbos for the Camaro, yes, your turbos only, cost more than the entire kit cost? You sell some turbos, for sure. As for failures, every single failure that came back- which was less than 5%, we're repaired and replaced. Most due
To poor oil.
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11-15-2013, 12:14 AM
#57
Former Vendor
APS kits sub standard quality was ONLY on their Camaro kits, and it was cheap Chinese turbos. That's it. 5000$ kit for a 4000$ car. They cheapest out on that for sure.
But those are camaros? This is corvette forum.
Their "quality" issues don't exist. The turbos were true Garrett pieces. The waste gates were true Tial units. The manifolds were thick heavy duty cast. The kit was great. That's my point? You guys all jumping up and down about "improving" on this kit? Short of bigger turbos, what's improved?
But those are camaros? This is corvette forum.
Their "quality" issues don't exist. The turbos were true Garrett pieces. The waste gates were true Tial units. The manifolds were thick heavy duty cast. The kit was great. That's my point? You guys all jumping up and down about "improving" on this kit? Short of bigger turbos, what's improved?
11-15-2013, 12:19 AM
#58
Not trying to attack you man, LG has a big name and I can respect that. But for you to make it a personal attack on Devin just because his kit is claimed an improvement really seems like there's something more going on here.
Let's say that the ONLY improvement is the upgraded turbos...is that not STILL an improvement?
Let's say that the ONLY improvement is the upgraded turbos...is that not STILL an improvement?
11-15-2013, 12:19 AM
#59
Former Vendor
APS kits sub standard quality was ONLY on their Camaro kits, and it was cheap Chinese turbos. That's it. 5000$ kit for a 4000$ car. They cheapest out on that for sure.
But those are camaros? This is corvette forum.
Their "quality" issues don't exist. The turbos were true Garrett pieces. The waste gates were true Tial units. The manifolds were thick heavy duty cast. The kit was great. That's my point? You guys all jumping up and down about "improving" on this kit? Short of bigger turbos, what's improved?
But those are camaros? This is corvette forum.
Their "quality" issues don't exist. The turbos were true Garrett pieces. The waste gates were true Tial units. The manifolds were thick heavy duty cast. The kit was great. That's my point? You guys all jumping up and down about "improving" on this kit? Short of bigger turbos, what's improved?
11-15-2013, 12:20 AM
#60
Former Vendor
Because you skirt around. Bigbirdws6. Oh, I bought his car, and took over his screen name. 
You won't become a sponsor ANYWHERE. Why not?
I just call it like I see it. You don't have a kit. It's a part time job for you almost isn't it?
You won't become a sponsor ANYWHERE. Why not? I just call it like I see it. You don't have a kit. It's a part time job for you almost isn't it?