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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 06:12 PM
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Here we go, E-Force 599 installed on a LS2. Everything else is stock
So....I'm guessing you're happier than a camel on hump day
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Old Jan 9, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Here we go, E-Force 599 installed on a LS2. Everything else is stock
Nice! That's going to shred some tires.
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Nice! That's going to shred some tires.

Why does a blower throw off the rear alignment so much that tires just don't last?
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Why does a blower throw off the rear alignment so much that tires just don't last?
It doesn't throw off the alignment... the tires get shreaded because you are doing burnouts and getting on the car because of the new power

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Originally Posted by 78-Bandit
Why does a blower throw off the rear alignment so much that tires just don't last?
No, but that torque will have you spinning the tires pretty good as you have fun with your new power.

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It doesn't throw off the alignment... the tires get shreaded because you are doing burnouts and getting on the car because of the new power
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 01:55 PM
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I'll gladly stick with my Eforce on my 06 Z and plan on pushing the blower and seeing what it is fully capable of.
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This is a good thread for me to throw this question out to: I've got a Procharger centrifugal on my LS1 F body Camaro and I like the way the power builds as it winds up. My LS3 Vette is next on the forced induction menu and I'm thinking PD this time just to see the difference, to have one of each, whatever. Only reservation I have is people are telling me there's gonna be a fall off in power before the shift points that I'm not going to like with an Edelbrock or Magnuson PD blower. Another pal tells me that issue has been solved and they pull all the way to red line now. Any helpful comments, and thanks all.

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This is a good thread for me to throw this question out to: I've got a Procharger centrifugal on my LS1 F body Camaro and I like the way the power builds as it winds up. My LS3 Vette is next on the forced induction menu and I'm thinking PD this time just to see the difference, to have one of each, whatever. Only reservation I have is people are telling me there's gonna be a fall off in power before the shift points that I'm not going to like with an Edelbrock or Magnuson PD blower. Another pal tells me that issue has been solved and they pull all the way to red line now. Any helpful comments, and thanks all.
We have installed and sold more Eforce's Blower in Northern California and can tell you it's a great setup for a street car... you get tons of torque down low and it pulls pretty hard to redline. I have NEVER had "1" customer who has regretted getting a PD blower or Eforce for their Vette.
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Originally Posted by Red08Roadster
This is a good thread for me to throw this question out to: I've got a Procharger centrifugal on my LS1 F body Camaro and I like the way the power builds as it winds up. My LS3 Vette is next on the forced induction menu and I'm thinking PD this time just to see the difference, to have one of each, whatever. Only reservation I have is people are telling me there's gonna be a fall off in power before the shift points that I'm not going to like with an Edelbrock or Magnuson PD blower. Another pal tells me that issue has been solved and they pull all the way to red line now. Any helpful comments, and thanks all.
One of my neighbors asked a similar question. I took him for a ride and told him to let me know when the car stopped pulling hard. He couldn't because it didn't. No, the boost isn't increasing as rpm goes up. It starts at max psi and stays there. If that's not what you want, it may not be for you. One of the reasons that I like it is the fact that I control the boost and power level with my right foot. If I want max psi at 3000 rpm, it's there. If I want to ramp up the boost as rpm rises, I can do that too. Perfect street car as far as I'm concerned. P/D blower = displacement on demand = smile control

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One of my neighbors asked a similar question. I took him for a ride and told him to let me know when the car stopped pulling hard. He couldn't because it didn't. No, the boost isn't increasing as rpm goes up. It starts at max psi and stays there. If that's not what you want, it may not be for you. One of the reasons that I like it is the fact that I control the boost and power level with my right foot. If I want max psi at 3000 rpm, it's there. If I want to ramp up the boost as rpm rises, I can do that too. Perfect street car as far as I'm concerned. P/D blower = displacement on demand = smile control

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Awesome numbers on the 599 kit on the LS2 motor. Anybody have LS3 results?
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Originally Posted by Red08Roadster
Awesome numbers on the 599 kit on the LS2 motor. Anybody have LS3 results?
Here ya go... on a stock Edelbrock tune 529RWHP, 470RWTQ.. we installed and ran this kit on our Dynojet.. 100% stock car with a Eforce tune

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Originally Posted by TPSMak
Here ya go... on a stock Edelbrock tune 529RWHP, 470RWTQ.. we installed and ran this kit on our Dynojet.. 100% stock car with a Eforce tune

http://www.tpsmotorsports.com/galler...10-Grand-Sport

Sweet! By my yardstick, that interpolates to around 635 hp at the crank, for whatever that's worth. Much more than the 599 Edelbrock claims. I should have asked, M6 or A6? Thanks for the info.
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The A6 trans can handle this power without modification?
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So should I change out the clutch with an LS2 M6?
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So should I change out the clutch with an LS2 M6?
I wouldn't worry about it. I made 750rwhp on a stock LS7 clutch and the disk looked perfect when I pulled it to replace it with an RXT. If it's not slipping then leave it.

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pd blowers are good for the track. where they line up, make a 1/8 or 1/4 mi. pull and then get a chance to cool. that is not the environment our street cars see. after you get on your pd blower a few times tying to pass people and zigzag through traffic, the blower gets hot. centri chargers with intercoolers were made for the street. even though the engine and charger is hot, the incoming boosted charge is still cooled appropriately. I think over time anyone who switches from a centrif to a pd will see this. that's why procharger advertises you can make 3 back to back pulls on the dyno with consistent numbers otherwise unachievable for a pd blower
You can negate some of that with the tune and meth/water injection. That being said, I run a centri and love it.
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Originally Posted by AutoWiz
pd blowers are good for the track. where they line up, make a 1/8 or 1/4 mi. pull and then get a chance to cool. that is not the environment our street cars see. after you get on your pd blower a few times tying to pass people and zigzag through traffic, the blower gets hot. centrif chargers with intercoolers were made for the street. even though the engine and charger is hot, the incoming boosted charge is still cooled appropriately. I think over time anyone who switches from a centrif to a pd will see this. that's why procharger advertises you can make 3 back to back pulls on the dyno with consistent numbers otherwise unachievable for a pd blower

Centi or PD has been beaten to death to many time so I don't want to start anything. I just want to say I don't know if you have had a modern PD blower setup because there is a lot of wrong info in you post.

They are both great. It just depends what you like.
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Is one better than the other for DD?
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We have probably installed more superchargers than just about any shop on this site and I an tell you the statement about pd blowers getting heat soaked very easily is over exaggerated. Yes they will get hotter than centris but they do offer the benefit of being great cars on the street with tons of torque. I have zero issues recommending pd blower for most customers
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I find the opposite. It's probably close but to me the PD seems like more work. I never actually timed it though.
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