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Old Jan 8, 2015 | 11:09 AM
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Daily Driving Issues?

I'm thinking about going this route but does anyone daily drive a forced induction Vette with this? I would be concerned about always having to be worried about something consumable when getting on it power-wise? As it stands without it I can just get on it and not worry about other variables.

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Car gets driven every day and I know the blower itself is a strain on the motor. How much more strain am I putting on it? Am I really making it safer at higher power levels thanks to the meth?

Thanks. I'm debating throwing this on before the 1/2 mile event later this month.
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Old Jan 8, 2015 | 11:23 AM
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Plenty of DD vehicles with meth... Lot safer with methanol for the octane adder/detonation suppressant.. However you know my whole sh-peel already
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Old Jan 8, 2015 | 11:27 AM
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No issues here, just make sure you top it off regularly. Mines in the washer tank so it'll let you know if low anyway. As long as your tune isn't completely dependent on the meth, it's a great safety feature. I have my kit coming off my car, barely used if your interested.
Only reason is ill probably be going e85.
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Old Jan 8, 2015 | 11:48 AM
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No issues. I top off in the garage maybe once every 2 weeks. I don't think I've ever even seen the low meth warning come on, but even if it did you know not to get on it or you are going to run out soon. Works great.
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As others stated, no problem for a daily driver. The only issue you may have is not having your windshield washer if you use the tank, but there are work arounds for that as well. Heck of a lot cheaper then race fuel when you need the octane.
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how much meth does the windshield washer fluid reservoir hold?
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Over a gallon. I think 1.5 gallons.
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Two words, do it!

It's Gods gift to high HP street cars.
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No issues. I top off in the garage maybe once every 2 weeks. I don't think I've ever even seen the low meth warning come on, but even if it did you know not to get on it or you are going to run out soon. Works great.
Price?
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Uhhh? I'm not for sale but if you could come up with 5M you can have me for a night.
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I would go with the sealed tank that mounts in the rear cubby from AIS so you can retain your ww. Other than that go for it!
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Uhhh? I'm not for sale but if you could come up with 5M you can have me for a night.
Oh baby oh baby.

Kidding. Replied to wrong post. Oops
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Originally Posted by under_psi
No issues here, just make sure you top it off regularly. Mines in the washer tank so it'll let you know if low anyway. As long as your tune isn't completely dependent on the meth, it's a great safety feature. I have my kit coming off my car, barely used if your interested. Only reason is ill probably be going e85.
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Call Matt at FSP and he will hook you up at least that is what you told me! Check out the post on the 2011 supercharged C6 650 RWHP. It will show the Meth install within the next few days on my car.
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Originally Posted by Nosferatu
As the title states...

Daily Driving Issues?

I'm thinking about going this route but does anyone daily drive a forced induction Vette with this? I would be concerned about always having to be worried about something consumable when getting on it power-wise? As it stands without it I can just get on it and not worry about other variables.

Durability?

Car gets driven every day and I know the blower itself is a strain on the motor. How much more strain am I putting on it? Am I really making it safer at higher power levels thanks to the meth?

Thanks. I'm debating throwing this on before the 1/2 mile event later this month.

You might want to figure out what's wrong with your car before adding anything else to it. You never came back into that "power loss" thread, but I'm pretty certain it is a fuel issue. Maybe you've figured it out already?

Otherwise, meth is a great addition to a boosted car. If it's installed with care (with a proper sized nozzle) and tuned the right way, then it can most certainly make the engine more reliable while making more power. There are many schools of thought on how to set up a meth tune on one of these cars, so that's a big factor.

I'd probably nozzle it for a full point drop in AFR (i.e. 11.8-10.8), and only add extra timing when the IATs see a big drop. That's probably the safest way it can be set up.
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Old Jan 8, 2015 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Streetk14
You might want to figure out what's wrong with your car before adding anything else to it. You never came back into that "power loss" thread, but I'm pretty certain it is a fuel issue. Maybe you've figured it out already?

Otherwise, meth is a great addition to a boosted car. If it's installed with care (with a proper sized nozzle) and tuned the right way, then it can most certainly make the engine more reliable while making more power. There are many schools of thought on how to set up a meth tune on one of these cars, so that's a big factor.

I'd probably nozzle it for a full point drop in AFR (i.e. 11.8-10.8), and only add extra timing when the IATs see a big drop. That's probably the safest way it can be set up.
Yes yes I have the car at the shop as we speak. He's troubleshooting the car first. I talked with him about it and he plans on fixing the problem before doing anything more to the car. We are thinking either a fuel pump issue or an ignition wire issue but it's still a work in progress.

I have a 1/2 mile event later this month so figured what the hell...you live once...maybe I'll do meth injection. If you use the windshield washer reservoir, about how many hits do you have of full throttle before there's concern about running out of it. How drive-able is the car typically if you were out of meth (esp under a load (e.g. boost))

Car is getting Wilwood Forge Superlites while at the shop.
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Originally Posted by Nosferatu
Yes yes I have the car at the shop as we speak. He's troubleshooting the car first. I talked with him about it and he plans on fixing the problem before doing anything more to the car. We are thinking either a fuel pump issue or an ignition wire issue but it's still a work in progress.

I have a 1/2 mile event later this month so figured what the hell...you live once...maybe I'll do meth injection. If you use the windshield washer reservoir, about how many hits do you have of full throttle before there's concern about running out of it. How drive-able is the car typically if you were out of meth (esp under a load (e.g. boost))

Car is getting Wilwood Forge Superlites while at the shop.
Matt told me it is normally 3 tanks of gas for 1.5 gallons of Meth at moderate use. With heavy use it is reduced. If the Meth light comes on you should drive the car normal (No Boost) until you fill it back up. I am not an expert but I have asked Matt the same questions. When my car is done I can give you some feedback.
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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 09:22 AM
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Ran all day, made 11 passes at the 1/2 mile with dual nozzles, and never topped off. Still had plenty of meth.

If you run out, then you are just like you are now, a car without meth.
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You really need to be driving the car like a maniac all the time to burn through a lot of meth during regular street driving. With a MAP based system, the more boost you see = the more meth you'll use. I've never worried about my meth level when doing airstrip events. Top it off before I leave home, and never an issue.

How the car runs when out of meth is fully dependent on how it's tuned and how the nozzle is sized. My car is slightly leaner than I'd like with no meth using a single M15 nozzle, but that's the way I chose to tune it. With my boost level and poor pump fuel quality, I want all the octane gains I can get. That means running a little too rich when the meth is flowing, and a little too lean when it isn't. I won't ever try to run my car with no meth obviously.

You might want to run something like an M10 nozzle to reduce the motor's dependency on meth if you're that worried. Keep fueling how it is now, and just add the meth on top. There is little to no risk if you do it that way. Just depends what you're after.
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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 10:31 AM
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Agreed with street, it is tune dependent. You can have it run with with no meth, but won't maximize power or results and you will run rich. Or you can have it fall on its face off meth and would know something is up. Many ways to do it.

Right now my car runs so much meth that with it off it basically doesn't run. When I was only making low 1000s it would make 910-920 off meth and then 1010-1020 on meth, but now it is tuned for meth on all the time.
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