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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 10:20 AM
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What tool are you using?
http://imperial-tools.com/content/40...-flaring-tools

I use the 402-FA kit. Nothing out there touches it in flare quality and consistency.
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Yea I am a little leery about leaks. I'm pretty confident making AN hose but this was my first time making hard lines. Fingers crossed.

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Originally Posted by Blackonblacksls
Well its worse because you are constantly cycling and heating the fuel in your tanks.

factory stuff just dumps right back into the tank..
Rather have it in the tunnel in case of a side impact than in the rocker panel. I've never had tunnel heat issues, fuel lines are in heat sleeve, and up on top of tunnel. It isn't an issue.
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If you get leaks, I have seals that I can sell you. They are expensive though.
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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 01:09 PM
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I thought the fittings self flared, or is the fuel pressure too high?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ea...YJAaAoee8P8HAQ
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Originally Posted by turbotuner20v
I thought the fittings self flared, or is the fuel pressure too high?

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ea...YJAaAoee8P8HAQ

That's for aluminum tubing.

And if you work on the car a lot that alum stuff gAlls and leaks.

I had most every fuel and coolant line in my camaro hardline and then alum stuff didn't hold up the best..
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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 02:26 PM
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Oh I like that better than what I'm using. No flaring involved there. The way I did it was slide a sleeve and nut over it and use a flare tool to create the surface the male AN seals against (hopefully).


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...4-2b/overview/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...3-1b/overview/
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I know in plants and refineries they use similar looking stuff.


But it's all stainless. Including the crush sleeve and tube nut.

And it holds some pretty high pressures.

Swagloc is a brand I see a lot
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Very nice bill!! nice to see you stepping it up!
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Originally Posted by 5 Liter Eater
Oh I like that better than what I'm using. No flaring involved there. The way I did it was slide a sleeve and nut over it and use a flare tool to create the surface the male AN seals against (hopefully).


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...4-2b/overview/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...3-1b/overview/
those look like they should work fine.

Originally Posted by Blackonblacksls
I know in plants and refineries they use similar looking stuff.


But it's all stainless. Including the crush sleeve and tube nut.

And it holds some pretty high pressures.

Swagloc is a brand I see a lot
We use these for our pressure washers to pipe the water to the discharge hoses. They hold 4500 psi of pressure all the time.
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Swagelok pieces are what we use on power plants. The only downside is the ferrules are consumable, and cheap **** like what the automotive fitting guys sell is junk and transfers the torque into the tube.

Aluminum tube is junk and reserved for amatuer hour.
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I'm using one of those here. It's beefy and all stainless.


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Bill used my 40+ yr old flaring tool that was my dads LOL! And I have done a TON of flares with it and like I told him with the few tips I gave him I have never had one leak. Or at least something a little turn of the wrench hasn't fixed. The swagelok stuff we use at our plant and is rated for 5k+ min so I don't think those are going to be a problem lol! I do like the took Dsteck showed, its nice little rollers probably make it easier to flare than the flat tappered one I've been using. But your not going to find a better set of Swagelok tubing benders LOL! I'm at work and can't look as some of the other things you guys posted, but the only thing I have used AL. tubing for has been for vacum or boost lines like on the WG's etc...
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I actually use a Swagelok bender. They're the only ones that don't seem to collapse the tube.

The flaring tool I use burnishes the surface to make it seal better.
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Originally Posted by DSteck
I actually use a Swagelok bender. They're the only ones that don't seem to collapse the tube.

The flaring tool I use burnishes the surface to make it seal better.
Ive just used a little sand paper to clean up all the edges and make sure there aren't any groves or slivers of stainless sticking up etc...
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I flare constantly. The one I use takes about ten seconds to do a perfect flare with no cleanup required aside from wiping the lubricant grease off. For constant use, it has blown away everything else I've tried.
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Cool. But that tool you have is pricey and if your doing it constantly I would probably invest in one myself, but I don't have to do it all the time so this antique I have is working great lol!
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Props, Bill. I can tell that you have put a lot of thought into this fuel system. Thanks for sharing and I'm looking forward to seeing how it performs soon.

Of course, the farmvette rep is going to be a little harder to pull off.
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Thanks Ben. I'd like to take credit but I'm basically just copying Jeff's with a few tweaks.

Got the return done in the engine bay. So this is what everything will look like.



I may redo this later on with a 150' off the stock feed nipple and running the line from the regulator all the way back to the firewall.

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