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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 08:20 AM
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All parts are in to begin building my D1 ProCharger forged 408 cid engine.
I am looking for advice on which lifters to consider.

My brain thinks that the GM racing roller hydraulics will be fine. ($300)

My builder thinks I should eliminate the plastic lifter buckets and use a bar type roller ($800). Of course,he keeps using the term " good insurance" and so far this " term" has cost me about an additional $1500.

I certainly don't want to be penny wise and dollar foolish, but my paranoia is beginning to get expensive.
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 10:21 AM
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Just get the factory gm ls7 lifters. They are like $230 for a full set. No problems north of 7000 rpm as long as your heads are not set up like garbage.
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by breecher_7
Just get the factory gm ls7 lifters. They are like $230 for a full set. No problems north of 7000 rpm as long as your heads are not set up like garbage.
That's my thinking, too.

But, my builder showed me a broken lifter bucket that allowed the roller to turn sideways. It wiped out the cam, and ruined the lifter bore. Plus, it flooded the oil with particles. The engine had to come out and be rebuilt, and that's the last thing I ever want to do again, pulling this engine out of the car, solo.

My heads are stock LS2 with the trunion upgrade and beehive springs. Going to have a mild Compcams blower camshaft.
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 12:48 PM
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I've run the morel 5206 in the past. I believe that was the part number. It runs around 500 and is a link bar style lifter and comes recommended.
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I run the Morel 5206 also and they have been trouble free. They are more like 700 bucks now though.
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by realcanuk
I run the Morel 5206 also and they have been trouble free. They are more like 700 bucks now though.
Damn they've jumped up. A quick google search shows a shop near me sells them for $609. But yeah, that's better than $800
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 11:01 PM
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Gm ls7, $140-145.
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 11:19 PM
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i had ls7's they worked fine but i had an issue with one very very noisy. I'm going to try comp this time.
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i just got ls7s from jegs 109 shipped...

how much preload u guys running on the ls7s?
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LS7 in my builds here. Not making crazy power, but they have been fine.
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I don't build motors for a living.

I'd call a reputable engine builder or BTR.

I have personally owned previous cars with failed lifters.

Plastic cracked and allowed the lifter to turn, snapped PRod, cracked block.

HTH
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Originally Posted by realcanuk
I run the Morel 5206 also and they have been trouble free. They are more like 700 bucks now though.
Yep. Haven't been able to find a set for under $670.
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Yep. Haven't been able to find a set for under $670.
I found them for $585 morel 5206 located in St. Helens, Oregon
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 01:32 PM
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my previous D1SC stroked ls2 setup at ~700whp ran ls7 lifters for over 10k miles without issues. It wasn't a race car but it certainly wasn't built to nancy pants around either. I don't think it was ever rev'd to 7k rpm though, the cam fell off at about 6,500.
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ls7 lifters till they fail or ever fail..lol...I had 0 issues with mine and also its a good idea to replace the trays with new ones...
maybe some that went bad were old trays w tons of miles
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Running ls7 lifters, 7200rpm pulls, 1100+hp. No issues. Put new trays in at the time.
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I'm using the crane ultra pro lifters. Randy from Ragin' Racing had a killer deal on them and so far zero issues.
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Old Mar 10, 2015 | 08:31 AM
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Thanks everyone.
Inasmuch as it looks like my new engine is going to set me back almost $10k once I am finished, I decided to use the Lunati Link Bar rollers.

I mean, what's a few additional Benjamins?



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