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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 11:09 PM
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D1 is a great street blower your going to love it, once you pulley it down things get real interesting
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Originally Posted by djfury05
Look into the Dallas Performance big mouth filter kit for it. Long tube headers as well.
We offer our larger inlet now in 3.5"
Same HP gain as the 4", however less "smashing" of the radiator.
Just the normal trimming as the standard inlet requires.

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Have their kit on my car. Been trouble free and I love it.


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Well I drive a F1R on a 2010 Camaro every day for about 60 miles and that is on a car that makes over 1000RWHP. Procharger by has been around the longest and has been winning races at the track FOREVER. They are EXTREMELY efficient and IATS are low enough to allow me to make around 30 autocross runs in ONE day WITHOUT a degradation in the performance. I do have a great tuner however LOL


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Discussed with the tuner and the plan now is to go with:
Procharger d1sc head with different 8 rip pulley and bracket kit.
Camshaft kit, yet to decide which cam.
Meth kit.
Fuel pump, 85 injectors, and regulator.
May put double fan for better cooling.
And THIS is exactly what I love seeing!

You are going to LOVE this system!
Now good luck getting traction.
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 10:45 AM
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ProCharger for the win best customer service I've ever had easy install and great people to work with.
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 07:22 PM
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I have done some little pricing research and found out that the D1sc procharger is about 1500$ more than a ECS Nouvi 1500.

Does the procharger justify the price difference!?
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by VetteArts
I have done some little pricing research and found out that the D1sc procharger is about 1500$ more than a ECS Nouvi 1500.

Does the procharger justify the price difference!?
ECS makes a great kit. I had this same dilemma when deciding on what kit I was going to go with. Honestly you are not going to go wrong either way. I would look up what it takes to swap blower belts with each kit though. Some are harder than others.

The price of the Procharger kits had me steer away from them at first. My build was going to have me not using a lot of the parts that come with the normal "off the shelf" kit though so I decided to call their support line and just order what I needed. BIG mistake. I had to make three separate orders with Procharger after hearing conflicting parts lists from their tech guys and I had to pay shipping each time . Of course you wouldn't experience this since you are buying a complete kit.

Vendors on here sometimes have sales on Procharger kits which can help offset the cost. ColoradoSpeed for example offeres 8-10% sometimes.

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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by VetteArts
I have done some little pricing research and found out that the D1sc procharger is about 1500$ more than a ECS Nouvi 1500.

Does the procharger justify the price difference!?
Our systems used to come with polished brackets, and blower standard.
(Which cause a price gap) Along with things like the cradle, and tuning aspect.

People can now order our kits in Satin, and minus tuning which helps offset the costs a good deal, and bring the price point closer to our competitors.
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Originally Posted by VetteArts
I have done some little pricing research and found out that the D1sc procharger is about 1500$ more than a ECS Nouvi 1500.

Does the procharger justify the price difference!?
the 1500 is a tiny blower... prochargers have a billet case so that is some of the price difference... there's a good chance the internal parts are also better... personally I would stay away from ecs, I have had a horrible experience with them and recently sold most of my kit and swapped over to a&a... after owning both companies products a&a definitely has the upper hand on quality and their customer service is leaps and bounds ahead of ecs... ecs will brag about their double bearing idlers but what most people don't know is that only the inner bearing of their tensioner idler is supported, the outer bearing is just along for the ride and held by a shanked bolt and thin washer... their washers are so thin that after removing and installing them a few times they start to fold over... a&a's idler bearings are supported by shouldered washers and they also use nice and thick high grade washers that will not deform... the two things I mentioned are just a couple of examples, it's little things like these that get overlooked by many people or maybe they are just not aware of it... the only thing ecs has an upper hand on is the ease of belt changes but if it is setup correctly you will only have to change a belt maybe once every year or 2 depending on how much you drive it... I like prochargers myself and have a d1 on my car, a&a more than likely already has the bracket you need in stock ecs on the other hand claims to not make them anymore and if so it's a "one off" so get ready to wait, and wait, and wait

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Originally Posted by EX1
ECS makes a great kit. I had this same dilemma when deciding on what kit I was going to go with. Honestly you are not going to go wrong either way. I would look up what it takes to swap blower belts with each kit though. Some are harder than others.

The price of the Procharger kits had me steer away from them at first. My build was going to have me not using a lot of the parts that come with the normal "off the shelf" kit though so I decided to call their support line and just order what I needed. BIG mistake. I had to make three separate orders with Procharger after hearing conflicting parts lists from their tech guys and I had to pay shipping each time . Of course you wouldn't experience this since you are buying a complete kit.

Vendors on here sometimes have sales on Procharger kits which can help offset the cost. ColoradoSpeed for example offeres 8-10% sometimes.
I will not be going full standard kit... I will be changing pulleys ribs, injection. And will start somehow bigger for future goals.
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ProChargerTech
Our systems used to come with polished brackets, and blower standard.
(Which cause a price gap) Along with things like the cradle, and tuning aspect.

People can now order our kits in Satin, and minus tuning which helps offset the costs a good deal, and bring the price point closer to our competitors.
Will probably contact you for pricing options later.

On another concern, coolant heat seems a problem in traffic with a/c on for people running centrifugal superchargers. What do you recommend to overcome that, knowing my set up and goals. Summer around here can be very very hot mid day time.
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Originally Posted by neutron82
the 1500 is a tiny blower... prochargers have a billet case so that is some of the price difference... there's a good chance the internal parts are also better... personally I would stay away from ecs, I have had a horrible experience with them and recently sold most of my kit and swapped over to a&a... after owning both companies products a&a definitely has the upper hand on quality and their customer service is leaps and bounds ahead of ecs... ecs will brag about their double bearing idlers but what most people don't know is that only the inner bearing of their tensioner idler is supported, the outer bearing is just along for the ride and held by a shanked bolt and thin washer... their washers are so thin that after removing and installing them a few times they start to fold over... a&a's idler bearings are supported by shouldered washers and they also use nice and thick high grade washers that will not deform... the two things I mentioned are just a couple of examples, it's little things like these that get overlooked by many people or maybe they are just not aware of it... the only thing ecs has an upper hand on is the ease of belt changes but if it is setup correctly you will only have to change a belt maybe once every year or 2 depending on how much you drive it... I like prochargers myself and have a d1 on my car, a&a more than likely already has the bracket you need in stock ecs on the other hand claims to not make them anymore and if so it's a "one off" so get ready to wait, and wait, and wait
Thanks. .. appreciate your comments.
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by VetteArts
Will probably contact you for pricing options later.

On another concern, coolant heat seems a problem in traffic with a/c on for people running centrifugal superchargers. What do you recommend to overcome that, knowing my set up and goals. Summer around here can be very very hot mid day time.
Unless you're talking 95*-105*, I don't think you'll have problems.

The easiest upgrade is to just switch to a high quality dual spal fan on the stock radiator and a 160* thermostat

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sp...FQKTaQodyxUA6g
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 06:03 PM
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I put the satin ECS kit on my ls3 A6 and love it. All I have is the kit with restrictor plate and a stainless works cat back, car dynoed 575rwhp and 507rwtq. No regrets with my decision on going with ECS.
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Old Apr 30, 2015 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by turbotuner20v
Unless you're talking 95*-105*, I don't think you'll have problems.

The easiest upgrade is to just switch to a high quality dual spal fan on the stock radiator and a 160* thermostat

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sp...FQKTaQodyxUA6g
Well, outside temperature may range 107 to 116 at summer time.
Coolant temperature reach 220 without supercharger. I am concerned that people have problems after putting ths sc. Do you think these fans will fix it.
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Originally Posted by neutron82
the 1500 is a tiny blower... prochargers have a billet case so that is some of the price difference... there's a good chance the internal parts are also better... personally I would stay away from ecs, I have had a horrible experience with them and recently sold most of my kit and swapped over to a&a... after owning both companies products a&a definitely has the upper hand on quality and their customer service is leaps and bounds ahead of ecs... ecs will brag about their double bearing idlers but what most people don't know is that only the inner bearing of their tensioner idler is supported, the outer bearing is just along for the ride and held by a shanked bolt and thin washer... their washers are so thin that after removing and installing them a few times they start to fold over... a&a's idler bearings are supported by shouldered washers and they also use nice and thick high grade washers that will not deform... the two things I mentioned are just a couple of examples, it's little things like these that get overlooked by many people or maybe they are just not aware of it... the only thing ecs has an upper hand on is the ease of belt changes but if it is setup correctly you will only have to change a belt maybe once every year or 2 depending on how much you drive it... I like prochargers myself and have a d1 on my car, a&a more than likely already has the bracket you need in stock ecs on the other hand claims to not make them anymore and if so it's a "one off" so get ready to wait, and wait, and wait
Man, you're really out to bash ECS any chance you get. It's unfortunate that you have had a bad experience with them. I've had 2 kits from both ECS and A&A. Both are great kits, go fast, I just prefer ECS. Doug, Chris, and Matt(before he moved to the Tarpon Fishing State) have always been helpful. So has Andy, and Josh is no nonsense guy from Texas that I like.

I'm curiois to your claims about the 1500 being a little blower. It made great power on my C6 on a 6 rib belt. It put a few F1 cars to sleep when they underestimated it. I haven't seen a D1(150cfm bigger) blower equal my results without going to an 8 rib. Lethal Perfomance spun an ECS Novi 2000 to 950rwhp before the owner went to a big turbo setup since that is what it takes to be fast around here.
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Originally Posted by winters97gt
Man, you're really out to bash ECS any chance you get. It's unfortunate that you have had a bad experience with them. I've had 2 kits from both ECS and A&A. Both are great kits, go fast, I just prefer ECS. Doug, Chris, and Matt(before he moved to the Tarpon Fishing State) have always been helpful. So has Andy, and Josh is no nonsense guy from Texas that I like.

I'm curiois to your claims about the 1500 being a little blower. It made great power on my C6 on a 6 rib belt. It put a few F1 cars to sleep when they underestimated it. I haven't seen a D1(150cfm bigger) blower equal my results without going to an 8 rib. Lethal Perfomance spun an ECS Novi 2000 to 950rwhp before the owner went to a big turbo setup since that is what it takes to be fast around here.
I'm just being honest, something ecs doesn't know how to do... that's why I got rid of most of their stuff, I am not going to run parts on my car from a company I cannot trust or have confidence in if I need help in the future and after switching I saw a lot of differences in the quality of parts between the 2 companies... I wasted a lot of money and time with ecs and would hate for anyone else to go through what I did... I meant the 1500 is a little blower physically, not saying it isn't any good

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