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Old 07-12-2015, 09:50 PM
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Attended my 3rd event with these guys. Tremendous fun. Pocono Raceway, 1600 ft WOT starting at 60. Huge shut down area. Surprised I didn't see more Corvettes there. Most were from ECS. For those that haven't attended, look into it. You get to wail on your car in a controlled setting. Timeslips for each run, lots of different competition - Hondas (fast *** 800 hpr 2700 lb Civics- Derek Robinson - he got me at the line) to Supras (took down a "1000" hpr Supra), UGR Lambos (didn't get to race but would have been a loss), BIG power GTRs, bad *** old school BMWs (with Turbos), GT 500s, etc. It really let's you know where you stand.
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That sounds like a BLAST!!
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Roll events are great fun for sure, and vettes are suited pretty well for them.
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Originally Posted by 427ZM
Roll events are great fun for sure, and vettes are suited pretty well for them.
Vettes are actually a poor platform for them. I love to roll race but they are definetly way outclassed by many other street cars at roll racing events.
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Wut? The past 2 runway rivalries say different. Now, if your talking TI, different story. For ultimate power, yes AWD is king, but for events up to 1100whp, the Vette is the way to go by far. The fastest car at the RR was a F1X GS Vette which was faster than a 1100whp TT Gallardo.
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Originally Posted by winters97gt
Vettes are actually a poor platform for them. I love to roll race but they are definetly way outclassed by many other street cars at roll racing events.
I don't see how you figure? For roll racing let's see...

-platform makes good power
-car is relatively aerodynamic
-car is LIGHT WEIGHT

Most of the cars at these events are heavy in comparison. Granted, like the guy just above me stated, get to stupid power levels and the AWD helps tremendously for not prepped surfaces.
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Originally Posted by Nosferatu
I don't see how you figure? For roll racing let's see...

-platform makes good power
-car is relatively aerodynamic
-car is LIGHT WEIGHT

Most of the cars at these events are heavy in comparison. Granted, like the guy just above me stated, get to stupid power levels and the AWD helps tremendously for not prepped surfaces.
Your points are exactly what noobs to roll racing events say. That's great talking points, but not really applicable since the last winners around here are all cars heavier than vettes. To win an event in Texas, you need 2000+hp, be able to put it to the ground without the suspension loaded like a drag race, have no lag(the reason anti lag development has come so far), and many other factors. Street cars that trap 180-190+mph in the 1/4 win roll race events here in Texas when they are setup to hit at 60 and boogie. Not too many street vettes in here can do that.
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TI 2kwhp, AWD, are needed to win.

RR at 1100whp and down, Vettes win. No better factory platform.
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This sounds like fun. When is the next event?
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Originally Posted by 427ZM
TI 2kwhp, AWD, are needed to win.

RR at 1100whp and down, Vettes win. No better factory platform.
X's 2, Vettes do just fine at RR and one even got kicked out for being too good.
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
X's 2, Vettes do just fine at RR and one even got kicked out for being too good.


Perfect cars for RR.
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Originally Posted by Nosferatu
I don't see how you figure? For roll racing let's see...

-platform makes good power
-car is relatively aerodynamic
-car is LIGHT WEIGHT

Most of the cars at these events are heavy in comparison. Granted, like the guy just above me stated, get to stupid power levels and the AWD helps tremendously for not prepped surfaces.
Don't forget gearing, my 2-3-4 spread is brutal from 60-160 on ZR1 gears
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Vette's are horrible for 1/2 mi racing..... My 720hp C5Z against a 900+HP 2014 Viper TA...
scroll to middle of page on the right side.... Calvo Motorsports vs True Steet C5Z... Vette's are terrible for these events....
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Originally Posted by 0H1Z06
Vette's are horrible for 1/2 mi racing.....
Turbos would fix that
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Originally Posted by slesher
This sounds like fun. When is the next event?

There is another one planned for October Fred, I'll make sure you are emailed.
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Turbo's would fix what??? The fact that a 970rwhp Viper barely edges a 718hp Vette....? Vette's are horrible 1/2 mi cars....


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Turbos would fix that

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I did well with my C6. Took out cars with much more power than I had but I'm guessing that has a little something to do with the nut behind the wheel.

Next event is weekend of 10/18 (Sunday).

ECS really supported their customers well at the track. Malfunctions were repaired, cars were maintained, the trailer provided shade (although you had to hang with Chris), fun was had by all.

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Old 07-15-2015, 07:09 AM
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Is this something that a n/a basically stock car could do? Or are there requirements...
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Originally Posted by winters97gt
Your points are exactly what noobs to roll racing events say. That's great talking points, but not really applicable since the last winners around here are all cars heavier than vettes. To win an event in Texas, you need 2000+hp, be able to put it to the ground without the suspension loaded like a drag race, have no lag(the reason anti lag development has come so far), and many other factors. Street cars that trap 180-190+mph in the 1/4 win roll race events here in Texas when they are setup to hit at 60 and boogie. Not too many street vettes in here can do that.
Just because a RWD platform can't compete with an AWD platform on a non-track prepped surface doesn't automatically make the Vette a horrible platform. It's a great platform for both road racing/track and for straight line acceleration. Only issue I see is having such a tall 5th gear in the manual cars. Pulling from 150 to 190/195ish in one gear is a touch order of business.

I'm all ears to hear the cars you feel "out class" the C6 platform at a roll racing event that doesn't include GT-R/Gallardo and the other AWD platforms.

Originally Posted by SinisterC6
Don't forget gearing, my 2-3-4 spread is brutal from 60-160 on ZR1 gears
How so? Gearing is good on the non-Z51 C6's up until 150mph or so. 53, 83, 114, 148 are approximately shift points for gears 1 through 4.
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Originally Posted by Nosferatu
Just because a RWD platform can't compete with an AWD platform on a non-track prepped surface doesn't automatically make the Vette a horrible platform. It's a great platform for both road racing/track and for straight line acceleration. Only issue I see is having such a tall 5th gear in the manual cars. Pulling from 150 to 190/195ish in one gear is a touch order of business.

I'm all ears to hear the cars you feel "out class" the C6 platform at a roll racing event that doesn't include GT-R/Gallardo and the other AWD platforms.



How so? Gearing is good on the non-Z51 C6's up until 150mph or so. 53, 83, 114, 148 are approximately shift points for gears 1 through 4.
I have the ZR1 gearset coded "MH3" so my max speeds are 75,110,140,165,180,220,260


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