102mm throttle body
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Can someone recommend a 102mm throttle body for high boost applications.
While the Nick Williams unit looks nice it is not cutout for boosted applications
While the Nick Williams unit looks nice it is not cutout for boosted applications
I'm confused and will try today to get some info from the actual manufacturers.
I'll keep you in the loop.
I dont Remember the brand.. but i know that KP racing had some 105ish MM TB on a Zr1 they did a while ago.. but i dont know how they act having air pushed through them VS pulled through like on the zr1.
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Most recently it failed and left me stranded.
I press the pedal and have no throttle position response.
I think tpis makes a unit built for boost. Motor will see 30psi
Last edited by SinisterC6; Aug 17, 2015 at 09:55 AM.
Sorry I already have the NW and it closed at wot from boost pressure. Vengeance added more voltage to keep the blade open but it's still symptomatic.
Most recently it failed and left me stranded.
I press the pedal and have no throttle position response.
I think tpis makes a unit built for boost
Most recently it failed and left me stranded.
I press the pedal and have no throttle position response.
I think tpis makes a unit built for boost
Sorry I already have the NW and it closed at wot from boost pressure. Vengeance added more voltage to keep the blade open but it's become symptomatiC again.
Most recently it failed and left me stranded.
I press the pedal and have no throttle position response.
I think tpis makes a unit built for boost. Motor will see 30psi
Most recently it failed and left me stranded.
I press the pedal and have no throttle position response.
I think tpis makes a unit built for boost. Motor will see 30psi
We usually have the same issues with the aftermarket TBs.. Generally we run the stock 90mm TB's with great success under boost.. As you saw in Ocala though at 32psi the stock tb was shutting down on us on yur2slo's. With the Haltech ECU we went cable pull and put a 102mm Fast on, however, it's not a one two three thing to trick the stock computer that there is still an operable TB on there (Otherwise it wont start, however, we know what works for this so we can share the info)... We actually have the FAST 102 w/ the vanjen welded onto it still up for sale as we have stepped up to a Marcella 125mm TB for the new build.
If you must stay electronic, what about going back to a stock unit ?
Kellys is a 108mm throttle body, and as of yet I have had no issues at 32lbs, but I think we are switch to a cable due to the vast issues with drive by wire throttle mfgs. I don't want to fail safe a tb at an event. We ran 24lbs at the mile with no blade closing issues. There is something up with how the center-line of the blade is on the Nick Williams, I guess the boost tries to close it, on the 108mm and the TPIS I think the blade center line is on the opposite side and tries to keep it open.
Last edited by KP Racing; Aug 17, 2015 at 12:13 PM.
Well I'll throw my .02 in your thread. I too ran the NW 102 on mine and all seemed fine for a while. It then began acting weird closing just when the car would start coming in to boost. It would close and then re-open instantly causing the car to do a quick nose over and back up. Mind you I'm on Pro EFI and still using the factory computer to operate it. I made 32lbs on it on the dyno and have ran @ 25lbs on the street with the NW's but kept giving me tuning fits so I went back to a stock TB with a Wiggins clamp and called it a day for now. The other larger TB's I found that would supposedly work well on FI cars were outrageously expensive is why it was my choice to go back to a stock TB. I could afford it, but cant justify the gains or lack there of on a FI car such as mine. I made 1200 on my Stock 78mm TB on my old Camaro and a this 90mm should do the 1500 I'm capable of now etc... GL. Post up what you end up doing or purchasing I'd be curious. Thanks
Jeff
Jeff
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We usually have the same issues with the aftermarket TBs.. Generally we run the stock 90mm TB's with great success under boost.. As you saw in Ocala though at 32psi the stock tb was shutting down on us on yur2slo's. With the Haltech ECU we went cable pull and put a 102mm Fast on, however, it's not a one two three thing to trick the stock computer that there is still an operable TB on there (Otherwise it wont start, however, we know what works for this so we can share the info)... We actually have the FAST 102 w/ the vanjen welded onto it still up for sale as we have stepped up to a Marcella 125mm TB for the new build.
If you must stay electronic, what about going back to a stock unit ?
If you must stay electronic, what about going back to a stock unit ?
Kellys is a 108mm throttle body, and as of yet I have had no issues at 32lbs, but I think we are switch to a cable due to the vast issues with drive by wire throttle mfgs. I don't want to fail safe a tb at an event. We ran 24lbs at the mile with no blade closing issues. There is something up with how the center-line of the blade is on the Nick Williams, I guess the boost tries to close it, on the 108mm and the TPIS I think the blade center line is on the opposite side and tries to keep it open.
Im intrested in this as well but they claim to be redesigning the unit and are two months away from production
Well I'll throw my .02 in your thread. I too ran the NW 102 on mine and all seemed fine for a while. It then began acting weird closing just when the car would start coming in to boost. It would close and then re-open instantly causing the car to do a quick nose over and back up. Mind you I'm on Pro EFI and still using the factory computer to operate it. I made 32lbs on it on the dyno and have ran @ 25lbs on the street with the NW's but kept giving me tuning fits so I went back to a stock TB with a Wiggins clamp and called it a day for now. The other larger TB's I found that would supposedly work well on FI cars were outrageously expensive is why it was my choice to go back to a stock TB. I could afford it, but cant justify the gains or lack there of on a FI car such as mine. I made 1200 on my Stock 78mm TB on my old Camaro and a this 90mm should do the 1500 I'm capable of now etc... GL. Post up what you end up doing or purchasing I'd be curious. Thanks
Jeff
Jeff
I too would have the unit close on me and completely lock leaving me on the side of the road four times the most recent resulting in a tow...
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Here's the response from NW and HP Tuners screenshots what happens when under enough boost:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=693












