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Anyone who is regular here knows you are just trying to cause trouble, but out of curiosity, what more do you think should be done in this situation? How can everyone involved better our customer service?
All parts have been warranted, all labor is 100% taken care of, we asked Paxton to expedite the repair even though this head unit wasn't purchased threw us or labeled ECS, and we have been following up with the repair to make sure it's getting done. I really don't know what else we can do.
We will purchase roughly 600 head units this year from Paxton, the come back rate is around 2-3%. I really do not think that is something that is cause for alarm. I realize it's frustrating when it's you that it happens to, I had an F2 head unit blow up on me on the first pass scattering metal into a fresh engine so I know the feeling too, but every company involved is doing the right thing here.
All parts have been warranted, all labor is 100% taken care of, we asked Paxton to expedite the repair even though this head unit wasn't purchased threw us or labeled ECS, and we have been following up with the repair to make sure it's getting done. I really don't know what else we can do.
We will purchase roughly 600 head units this year from Paxton, the come back rate is around 2-3%. I really do not think that is something that is cause for alarm. I realize it's frustrating when it's you that it happens to, I had an F2 head unit blow up on me on the first pass scattering metal into a fresh engine so I know the feeling too, but every company involved is doing the right thing here.
... I must say that his headunit appears to be clearly labeled from you guys thoughI know, and thank you! My rant was towards Neutron because he is just in here to cause problems. He is upset with us because he wanted a part from us that we didn't offer, so he goes into any thread he can causing problems, very childish really. It's the Internet though and my skin is as thick as it comes.
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I know, and thank you! My rant was towards Neutron because he is just in here to cause problems. He is upset with us because he wanted a part from us that we didn't offer, so he goes into any thread he can causing problems, very childish really. It's the Internet though and my skin is as thick as it comes.
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There is a lot of variables to that, mainly being the RPM and abuse level. We have had many now break 100k miles of use though. However most Corvettes are weekend cars that do not get a lot of mileage each year, so I don't have enough high mileage cars to properly answer that unfortunately. Sorry to be so vague.
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St. Jude Donor '14
There is a lot of variables to that, mainly being the RPM and abuse level. We have had many now break 100k miles of use though. However most Corvettes are weekend cars that do not get a lot of mileage each year, so I don't have enough high mileage cars to properly answer that unfortunately. Sorry to be so vague.
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well mine failed at 13,000 miles and I daily drive this car. I plan on going to 100k plus (car is at 60k now blower went on at 47k) so I'm hoping the lifetime is a while or this is going to get costly to keep on the road. Matt@FSP knows I "drive" the car but I don't really track the car since it's an hour away and I'm a chicken when it comes to wanting to put slicks on the car (don't want to break drivetrain stuff). Anyways, car sees boost every day (2-4psi) but not full throttle every day (can't unless I'm on a highway lol).
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Mine failed ~9k miles, but was being overspun and packed full of belt material, so that is amazing it made it that far. On a 800-1200rwhp car, if a blower needs $600 in maintenance every 10k miles, that is completely fine with me. I expect the current one to last long, but if I have to spend $600 every 2 years on blower maintenance, that is pennies compared to maintaining a 1000hp car.
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It isn't just a vortech/paxton thing. They all fail. Friend went through 3 pro chargers. Another guy I know is on his 3rd heartbeat. One shop that does a lot of maggies/heart beats keeps spare blowers to swap on when they fail because of how many/common that is. Thing is you don't really hear about it. If you want to play the big power/blower game, that is the dice you roll. Especially once you turn any of them up past the "base" settings.
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St. Jude Donor '15
Are the engine oil fed units more reliable? Not to say the self contained units aren't reliable.. just curious. I guess only a head unit manufacturer would really have enough data to answer that.
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Mine failed ~9k miles, but was being overspun and packed full of belt material, so that is amazing it made it that far. On a 800-1200rwhp car, if a blower needs $600 in maintenance every 10k miles, that is completely fine with me. I expect the current one to last long, but if I have to spend $600 every 2 years on blower maintenance, that is pennies compared to maintaining a 1000hp car.
It isn't just a vortech/paxton thing. They all fail. Friend went through 3 pro chargers. Another guy I know is on his 3rd heartbeat. One shop that does a lot of maggies/heart beats keeps spare blowers to swap on when they fail because of how many/common that is. Thing is you don't really hear about it. If you want to play the big power/blower game, that is the dice you roll. Especially once you turn any of them up past the "base" settings.
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St. Jude Donor '14
It isn't just a vortech/paxton thing. They all fail. Friend went through 3 pro chargers. Another guy I know is on his 3rd heartbeat. One shop that does a lot of maggies/heart beats keeps spare blowers to swap on when they fail because of how many/common that is. Thing is you don't really hear about it. If you want to play the big power/blower game, that is the dice you roll. Especially once you turn any of them up past the "base" settings.
LT Headers are about the only addition. Restrictor plate still in, stock cam, etc. etc. etc. Hardly a pushed unit.
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Well, keep in mind that ECS pullies these things to near max speed on their basic kit. So while you might not have what you consider a "pushed unit", it's still being run pretty hard if you're running at high rpm a lot. Just my thought.
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St. Jude Donor '14
True. Most cars with aftermarket cam are going to a higher RPM and therefore spinning the blower even faster. So while what you say is partially correct, having a stock cam limits my max RPM to push the engine (and therefore the supercharger).