Boosted C6 MPG question
Jun 3, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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Boosted C6 MPG question
So I am on a ls2 thats forged with a ecs1500SL - Z06 Pump and Boost a Pump. I have 95lb ID1000s and I am running speed density.
When I cruise on the highway i am getting no higher then say 15mpg and in the city no higher then 8. And that is me grandma driving it.
looking for ideas and what other people are getting
Jun 3, 2016 | 01:27 PM
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Ls2 w/ ecs1500 as well. Stock fuel pump with a boost-a-pump, 60lb inject.
With my cam/DRs on a short test i get around 20 on the highway but I cant stay off the gas to get any real numbers.
Jun 3, 2016 | 01:35 PM
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16-17 city 26ish highway. 1200rwhp 427
Jun 3, 2016 | 01:40 PM
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Unreal
16-17 city 26ish highway. 1200rwhp 427
hOWWWWWWWWWWWW lol
why is my **** so wack
your not using the cars computer are you ?
I was doing Miles/gallons put in.
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Jun 3, 2016 | 02:38 PM
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Yes tracking manually.
Blower should not kill gas milleage unless you are on it all the time. Sounds like your tune needs some work.
Jun 3, 2016 | 03:22 PM
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I don't really care about gas mileage but even on e85 mine isn't that bad. Sounds like a tune problem for sure.
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Jun 3, 2016 | 03:29 PM
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What do you actually get when you add it up manually?
MPG calcs can get all screwed up with tune. Mine shows 2x reality.. so mine shows like 600+ miles per tank on a full tank now
(I'm assuming you were going by DIC with those #'s.. if they are actual then they are low)
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Jun 3, 2016 | 03:37 PM
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Sounds like your tune needs some work.
So true.
Probably way too little advance. Or runninng open loop all the time. Etc.
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Jun 3, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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St. Jude Donor '15
But the cool kids run OL the time
Jun 3, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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So I am on a ls2 thats forged ...
Compression ratio?
Stock or no stock cam?
Jun 3, 2016 | 03:57 PM
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Low compression kills mpg. Cams kill mpg. Poor tuning does too. Too easy to get into PE is common.
Jun 3, 2016 | 04:11 PM
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Quote:
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Low compression kills mpg. Cams kill mpg. Poor tuning does too. Too easy to get into PE is common.
...and sometimes tuners forget to activate DFCO after tuning. :-)
Anyway, some cryptic acronyms for OP to consider...
Jun 3, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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I was getting about 33 MPG with the 6L80 highway . ECS kit, cam, 65 pound injectors, and BAP. Now in a 4l65 and stage 1 fuel kit and I'm getting 26 mpg highway.
Jun 3, 2016 | 06:13 PM
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Jun 4, 2016 | 02:09 AM
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schpenxel
by dic or calculated?
dic
Jun 4, 2016 | 06:26 AM
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I am 9.5:1 and a tick stage 2 blower can.
What is open loop?
And the mpg off the cars computer is never right..
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Jun 4, 2016 | 08:17 AM
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Cam and compression and tuning kill MPG, not the blower or fuel system. Blower and fuel system should have no effect on MPG just cruising around.
Jun 4, 2016 | 08:53 AM
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Quote:
I am 9.5:1 and a tick stage 2 blower can.
What is open loop?
And the mpg off the cars computer is never right..
Disabled O2 sensors basically. Could be running lean or rich just riding around and computer can't do anything to fix it. Some tuners leave it like that.. not sure why on most setups.
2006+ have a fuel density table that can be used to get the DIC to display more accurately. Most tuners don't mess with it though
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Jun 4, 2016 | 10:58 AM
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Stock other than the A&A system. Average 20 around town and 28 on a trip running 70-80.
Jun 4, 2016 | 11:35 AM
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I've been getting about 25-26 mpg with mine lately. That's probably a 90/10 hwy/city split from my commute. In general, I used to get about 2 mpg better when it was stock on the same driving loop, but I do drive it a lot harder after the exhaust and blower.
It's a stock ls3/a6, v3si, catless 1 7/8 headers, corsa extreme exhaust, alkycontrol (I run 50/50, and it's not really cranked up all that much), 65# injectors, a BAP, and a tune.
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