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Racer
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The only issue I have with the ECS kit is the lack of radiator and A/C flow for my Z51 car.
Could very well be installation error from the previous texas shop (because some things were cut in a way that will make a sane person say "W T F?")
Once I cut out the bumper support a bit to allow air flow, the car stays cool in 90 degree temps and A/C on full blast.
The A&A kit does the intercooler placement differently, thus I haven't heard much about the cooling issues with their setup.
Could very well be installation error from the previous texas shop (because some things were cut in a way that will make a sane person say "W T F?")
Once I cut out the bumper support a bit to allow air flow, the car stays cool in 90 degree temps and A/C on full blast.
The A&A kit does the intercooler placement differently, thus I haven't heard much about the cooling issues with their setup.
Team Owner
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From: Gilbert AZ
The only issue I have with the ECS kit is the lack of radiator and A/C flow for my Z51 car.
Could very well be installation error from the previous texas shop (because some things were cut in a way that will make a sane person say "W T F?")
Once I cut out the bumper support a bit to allow air flow, the car stays cool in 90 degree temps and A/C on full blast.
The A&A kit does the intercooler placement differently, thus I haven't heard much about the cooling issues with their setup.
Could very well be installation error from the previous texas shop (because some things were cut in a way that will make a sane person say "W T F?")
Once I cut out the bumper support a bit to allow air flow, the car stays cool in 90 degree temps and A/C on full blast.
The A&A kit does the intercooler placement differently, thus I haven't heard much about the cooling issues with their setup.
Racer
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Now, with the fix, I've seen 205 in the same situation.
Last edited by JasonCzerak; Jul 22, 2016 at 11:02 AM.
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The only issue I have with the ECS kit is the lack of radiator and A/C flow for my Z51 car.
Could very well be installation error from the previous texas shop (because some things were cut in a way that will make a sane person say "W T F?")
Once I cut out the bumper support a bit to allow air flow, the car stays cool in 90 degree temps and A/C on full blast.
The A&A kit does the intercooler placement differently, thus I haven't heard much about the cooling issues with their setup.
Could very well be installation error from the previous texas shop (because some things were cut in a way that will make a sane person say "W T F?")
Once I cut out the bumper support a bit to allow air flow, the car stays cool in 90 degree temps and A/C on full blast.
The A&A kit does the intercooler placement differently, thus I haven't heard much about the cooling issues with their setup.
Team Owner
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From: Gilbert AZ
Then they all suck until you open that bumper support. 90 degree day, stop and go traffic, A/C on full and a black car, even on e85 is rather unbearable when the coolant temps hit 240 and the A/C is ineffective, thus requiring you to stop the A/C, open the windows so the motor cools off to 230.
Now, with the fix, I've seen 205 in the same situation.
Now, with the fix, I've seen 205 in the same situation.
Was driving around yesterday in 117-118F weather, and car never saw over 217 with AC blasting ice cold, in stop/go city driving.
Drifting
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Springfield IL
Unreal, are you still on an aluminum shortblock or an iron block? I'm wondering if the iron block not shedding as much heat is some people's issues. Even in 98 degree heat with a heat index of 112, my car never missed a beat. It's a cut down Dewitt radiator (don't judge me haha), trimmed 05 fan that's sealed to the radiator, minor ducting, front bumper opening trimmed, and a vented hood but a Procharger race IC. Between an iron block and lack of street tuning, it could put some people's cooling system over the edge.
Last edited by chpmnsws6; Jul 22, 2016 at 03:49 PM.
Racer
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it's a huge _FACT_ that cutting the bumper support in fact dropped temps 40 degrees all around. Hell the tunnel heat 20 degrees cooler as noted by my thermo gun.
Yes, I have the proper air dam under the car as well.
Last edited by JasonCzerak; Jul 22, 2016 at 03:52 PM.
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From: Gilbert AZ
Unreal, are you still on an aluminum shortblock or an iron block? I'm wondering if the iron block not shedding as much heat is some people's issues. Even in 98 degree heat with a heat index of 112, my car never missed a beat. It's a cut down Dewitt radiator (don't judge me haha), trimmed 05 fan that's sealed to the radiator, minor ducting, front bumper opening trimmed, and a vented hood but a Procharger race IC. Between an iron block and lack of street tuning, it could put some people's cooling system over the edge.
Jason, you would have had the same issue with any of the centri kits. They all suck when it comes to radiator cooling. And if by dual fans you did the dewitts/spal dual fans, those are a big downgrade from factory. So that explains part of it. They barely move any air.
Last edited by Unreal; Jul 22, 2016 at 03:56 PM.
Racer
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which is my point. However, if the A&A intercooler is moved forward a few inches from where ECS puts theirs, i'd imagine the A&A would be better assuming the car as the factory air dam under it that's supposed to force air up from under the car. If that part is removed then there's not hope regardless of supercharger or not.
Last edited by JasonCzerak; Jul 22, 2016 at 03:57 PM.
Team Owner
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From: Gilbert AZ
which is my point. However, if the A&A intercooler is moved forward a few inches from where ECS puts theirs, i'd imagine the A&A would be better assuming the car as the factory air dam under it that's supposed to force air up from under the car. If that part is removed then there's not hope regardless of supercharger or not.
Racer
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Its a trade off. They move it farther forward, but now block the whole front opening. ECS only blocks ~60% so it allows fresh air to hit the radiator and air filter. Its basically a wash when it comes to cooling. I've ran both, and noticed zero difference in cooling between the two.
Last edited by JasonCzerak; Jul 22, 2016 at 04:15 PM.
