Return Style Fuel System: many questions
Have the main components mostly determined as follows:
LPE passenger side tank block-off L750000103 (I only need pass side if I run ECS bulkhead, right?)
ECS Bulkhead (Size undetermined)
Holley 100 micron pre filter 162-572 (12AN in/out, does it make sense to get ECS bulkhead if I'm running pre filter?)
Holley Dominator 12-1800 (10AN in/out)
Holley 30 amp fuel pump relay kit 12-573
Holley 10 micron post filter 162-570 (12AN in/out)
Holley fuel rails 534-209 (8AN in/out)
Holley fuel pressure regulator 12-848 (10AN in/out 8AN return)
Earl pressure gauge for fpr 100187ERL
LG vacuum manifold sku-2116
Hobbs Honeywell normally open 76575-4
Chevy performance (continental) flex fuel sensor 13577394
Chevy performance flex fuel sensor harness 13352241
1) ok main component wise (excluding hose & fitments) am I missing/forgetting something? Especially electrical, will fuel level sensor etc run ok?
2) does it make sense to just run LPE blockoff on pass only and ECS bulkhead on driver side? Do I need to do anything else to the driver side tank?
3) can I convert stock line to serve as the return?
4) I think I should be ok to run Fragola ptfe hose, what sizes do you recommend and what lengths, as this will greatly affect fittings/adapters needed
5) any words of wisdom you would like to part with
2. Depends on fuel pressure you want to run. Can't go over 58psi without blocking off the driver regulator also. You're very likely to be over that when in boost
3. Yes, that is what I did. I'll try to dig up some pictures
4. -8 for feed, -6 for return (to connect to and from factory feed that is now your return). I used the same hose. It's stiff as hell so it's a bit tough to work with but not too bad
5. fittings add up... try not to order too much stuff you don't need!
This is where stock fuel pump connects to hose that runs to the fuel rail. Disconnect here.
180* fitting with 3/8" female GM adapter connects here. Also the other hose will get a 3/8" male adapter. Factory pump will connect to new feed, other hose will be connected to return on side of tank (ECS bulkhead for you)
Overall system near tank. I have a Y after the pump. New pump and factory pump connect to Y, then output of Y goes to fuel rail
Regulator setup/flex fuel sensor setup. Not ideal to have regulator here but until I get some different fuel rails that was my only real option
Racetronix has this really slick fitting for connecting to the factory line. They have a ton of stuff like this, some if it ain't cheap though.
Last edited by schpenxel; Nov 6, 2016 at 06:26 PM.
I'm going to upgrade the fuel system before I actually buy a blower so I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row. Might just bite the bullet and buy a fore setup.
I need to add a larger/finer filter post-pump but haven't yet gotten around to it yet
Last edited by schpenxel; Nov 7, 2016 at 10:06 AM.
2. Depends on fuel pressure you want to run. Can't go over 58psi without blocking off the driver regulator also. You're very likely to be over that when in boost
3. Yes, that is what I did. I'll try to dig up some pictures
4. -8 for feed, -6 for return (to connect to and from factory feed that is now your return). I used the same hose. It's stiff as hell so it's a bit tough to work with but not too bad
5. fittings add up... try not to order too much stuff you don't need!
1) I should be ok w/ the 30 amp wiring kit for the pump, placing the hobbs on the vacuum block/manifold, and running one of those 15 ft hobbs wiring relay things from Racetronix all the way back to the pump, right?
2) Got it, I'll plan on getting both sides
3) Pics helped, so I remove the original feed and (in my case) attach it to the return on the ecs bulkhead, then use a little bit of hose to run from stock feed location to Y together w/ the feed after the pump/post-filter, right? Is it necessary to do this, (can you leave stock pump to just transfer fuel between tanks and not push fuel thru stock feed location?) what if I just want one of the externals to run always on (not sure if this is smart, but supposedly this Holley is really quiet/doesn't warm up fuel as bad) and just kick the second one on w/ hobbs @ 4psi?
4) Got it, how much do you think you ended up using ballparkish, around 20 ft of 8AN and less than 10 ft of 6AN?
5) Yeap, this I've been warned about, thanks again for your help
4. I originally ordered 12 ft of -8 and 5 ft or -6. I cut it really close on the -8 (think I wasted some somewhere along the way) so I'd get an extra foot or two on that. I had -6 leftover so 5 ft should be enough
Racetronix black hose is the same as Fragola's, so I'd order that unless you find fragola hose cheap
http://www.racetronix.biz/itemdesc.a...%2D06B&eq=&Tp=
Last edited by schpenxel; Nov 7, 2016 at 06:59 PM.
I had two new zo6 sending units fail due to over pressuring, the stock fuel connections leaked huge amounts of fuel.
I now have very stable fuel pressure at any pressure with zero issues.......I lost my stock motor to trusting the stock fuel sending unit.
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Do you still have a list of the fittings you used?
I spoke w/ someone from JEGS and compiled a list of fittings, but didn't take into account angles, I know I'll need more 90* & 180* adapters/fittings.
Basically this is the rundown I've compiled, can you specify angle needed or jegs/racetronix part numbers if you remember:
Start
ECS Bulkhead
Looks like 90* w/ an adapter?
Stock Feed Location
180* w/ an adapter and then another adapter?
Y connection for Stock Feed and Post Pump Feed
665-MP-6288-BLK <- This should work?
Feed line to Rear of Passenger Side Rail
90* -8AN Port to -8AN Hose? Low profile fitment issue?
Crossover in Front of Rails
2x 90* -8AN Port to -8AN Hose?
555-110022 <- will this work?
Return Line from Rear of Driver Side Rail to FPR
90 or 120* -8AN Port to -6AN Hose? Again is there a fitment issue at back of the rails?
Flex Fuel Sensor
Are those quick connect fittings followed by a 90* adapter?
FPR
Did you just use the Return Line straight from the rails to feed into the FPR, then run the out to the FF Sensor, and an additional out to Y back into the line after the FF Sensor?
Could you just run the return line from the FPR to the FF Sensor and then back to the tank, and plug the third port on the FPR?
Thanks,
Joe
Fuel pressure regulator there are a few ways to do it.. the way mine is isn't ideal. It would be better to run the feed straight to the rail, then connect the Schrader valve to the regulator, plug one side, then connect the outlet to the return line (original feed). That way fuel gets to the rail first, then regulator
Last edited by schpenxel; Nov 10, 2016 at 07:02 PM.
Fuel pressure regulator there are a few ways to do it.. the way mine is isn't ideal. It would be better to run the feed straight to the rail, then connect the Schrader valve to the regulator, plug one side, then connect the outlet to the return line (original feed). That way fuel gets to the rail first, then regulator







