Fuel system for 800whp on pump E85
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Fuel system for 800whp on pump E85
I've been doing some poking around on the A&A, ECS and Fore websites, and it seems they all have something to get the job done. I'm probably like most of you... I dislike the idea of punching a hole in a plastic fuel tank. BUT, I also like the idea of keeping $1k in my pocket. I don't mind spending money on necessary things, but I'm totally over the mentality of.. "you own an expensive car, so you should buy the most expensive parts". I just want reliable and safe fuel delivery.
For those of you who have gone down this path.. Did you make any choices you wish you'd have made differently related to fuel system components?
I have a single nozzle Alky kit also.
For those of you who have gone down this path.. Did you make any choices you wish you'd have made differently related to fuel system components?
I have a single nozzle Alky kit also.
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Making a hole is no problem. The ECS bulkhead is the best option for that. I run that bulkhead with an A&A twin pump kit. Works great.
If you don't mind dropping the tanks, possibly more than once if any issues arrive, then the Fore systems look like the way to go.
If you don't mind dropping the tanks, possibly more than once if any issues arrive, then the Fore systems look like the way to go.
Burning Brakes
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I had absolutely no issue punching a hole in mine. ESC stage 1. I had the whole thing done in less than 3 hours. The tank is VERY thick. I have a toggle switch to by pass the hobb switch in the event my in tank fuel pump craps out while driving.
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Obvious I am biased, but IMO the difference in our kit and others as far as the tank mounting of the fuel lines is second to none. Simply not even a comparison in quality, and we actually understand how the fuel system works.
Our systems start at $799 for the stg1, the hoses are pre-made PTFE and pressure tested too.
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...ategory_id=302
Thanks for the interest guys!
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That's a pretty good idea.
Obvious I am biased, but IMO the difference in our kit and others as far as the tank mounting of the fuel lines is second to none. Simply not even a comparison in quality, and we actually understand how the fuel system works.
Our systems start at $799 for the stg1, the hoses are pre-made PTFE and pressure tested too.
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...ategory_id=302
Thanks for the interest guys!
Obvious I am biased, but IMO the difference in our kit and others as far as the tank mounting of the fuel lines is second to none. Simply not even a comparison in quality, and we actually understand how the fuel system works.
Our systems start at $799 for the stg1, the hoses are pre-made PTFE and pressure tested too.
http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.co...ategory_id=302
Thanks for the interest guys!
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I guess we should at least put it there for a stock rail scenario.
The additional parts are the two fuel tank regulator block off's, a boost referenced regulator and the necessary fuel line needed. it's just additional parts that work with the stg 1 system basically.
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this is exactly what I have but stage 2 ECS and A1000 with stock z06 pump on BAP. works perfectly at 900whp so far on 91 pump gas and dual nozzle meth m10/m15. rock steady fuel pressure all the way to 175mph at 1/2 mile event.
Last edited by neverstop; Mar 20, 2017 at 11:27 AM.
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We have hesitated putting them on the site because it's so often that people would order but had aftermarket fuel rails or other custom parts that required different fittings etc. So we take the phone call to try and by pass return shipping of some parts, shipping out of new.
I guess we should at least put it there for a stock rail scenario.
The additional parts are the two fuel tank regulator block off's, a boost referenced regulator and the necessary fuel line needed. it's just additional parts that work with the stg 1 system basically.
I guess we should at least put it there for a stock rail scenario.
The additional parts are the two fuel tank regulator block off's, a boost referenced regulator and the necessary fuel line needed. it's just additional parts that work with the stg 1 system basically.
So does adding those few things to the stage 1 make it capable of supporting more? For example what would that system now support on e85 power wise?
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Agree about not going into tanks unless you have to. ECS stage 1 won't support that power but with a bigger (or dual) pumps and a return it will. Basically what the Stage 2 is.
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About every 3 months I get a service fuel system, and gauges go dead. Typically on long drive. Reload tune and all good. Something with the sensors not synching up correctly. Only happens if I drive from full to lower than 1/2 tank in one drive (road trip/etc). Annoying, but I'll live with it as no way in hell I'm getting back in there to fix such a minor issue.
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About every 3 months I get a service fuel system, and gauges go dead. Typically on long drive. Reload tune and all good. Something with the sensors not synching up correctly. Only happens if I drive from full to lower than 1/2 tank in one drive (road trip/etc). Annoying, but I'll live with it as no way in hell I'm getting back in there to fix such a minor issue.
Team Owner
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Which codes exactly? It doesn't throw any codes, just freaks out every 3 or so months on long drives. I'll do that tomorrow though, not that I would ever notice it until 3-4 months from now.
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Just to add a data point here I have ECS stage 1 with an AEM380, a stock 07 fuel pump, dual m10 nozzles in the alky kit, bosch 127 injectors.
The pumps cant keep up enough for me to run E85. We had to back down to E70 to let the fuel system keep up. Made 860/800 through a 6L80E on the E70.
Someday I will do an ECS Stage 2 upgrade with a better in tank pump and boost reference the system.
The pumps cant keep up enough for me to run E85. We had to back down to E70 to let the fuel system keep up. Made 860/800 through a 6L80E on the E70.
Someday I will do an ECS Stage 2 upgrade with a better in tank pump and boost reference the system.
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Originally Posted by Tech
Stage 1 E85 system wont? I believe their website says it does.
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ECS now has a Stage 1 E85 kit with a -10 feed and -8 output and an Aeromotive A1000 pump, for $1299. I don't even see the Stage 2 listed anymore. That should be good for what the OP wants to do.
The only problem I have with ECS is that I've been trying to order one of their fuel kits (and a tensioner) for the last two weeks and after several tries at ordering it online and a couple of emails to Chris, I still haven't been able to get it ordered. Maybe they're slammed with work or something...
The only problem I have with ECS is that I've been trying to order one of their fuel kits (and a tensioner) for the last two weeks and after several tries at ordering it online and a couple of emails to Chris, I still haven't been able to get it ordered. Maybe they're slammed with work or something...