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Drifting
Joined: Jun 2016
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From: Temecula, CA
Far more of those same sources will tell you how great the ECS kits are. I wouldn't hesitate for a minute to get an ECS kit. I only got an A&A kit because my build was done in CA. Both are great shops that stand behind their products.
Safety Car
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: St. Louis Missouri
Find one on sale (not necessarily used unless it's A&A/ECS reselling it) and buy it. It doesn't matter which kit.
Racer
Joined: Sep 2016
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From: East Brunswick New Jersey
I am not saying the ECS is crap or anything. But I've spoken to a lot of shops and a lot of kit owners about the differences.
A looooot of the ECS kit owners kick belts. A friend of mine, who had his kit installed by a very reputable shop, kicked belts allllll the time. I think it was 5 in 18 months and he barely raced the car! Can probably find that on the A&A side, but I haven't read one yet.
I have also heard how the ECS intercooler setup isn't to great.
These things dont don't make the kit bad (although it sure sounds like I'm killing it), just make it slightly inferior. All of the supercharged kits that I've seen all have ECS. They all love it.
I wouldn't have been upset buying an ECS kit.
A looooot of the ECS kit owners kick belts. A friend of mine, who had his kit installed by a very reputable shop, kicked belts allllll the time. I think it was 5 in 18 months and he barely raced the car! Can probably find that on the A&A side, but I haven't read one yet.
I have also heard how the ECS intercooler setup isn't to great.
These things dont don't make the kit bad (although it sure sounds like I'm killing it), just make it slightly inferior. All of the supercharged kits that I've seen all have ECS. They all love it.
I wouldn't have been upset buying an ECS kit.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2013
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this guy is on glue. I'm running the ECS intercooler at probably >1000hp at the flywheel (907whp) and my intake temps and car cooling are great.
there are thousands of cars with ECS kits running great and the only reason a car with one kit or the other would kick a belt is if the install was done badly and belt alignment wasn't checked. that is the only reason.
there are ECS cars in the 8s in the quarter mile and their stuff is great quality and they have amazing customer service imo. A&A is also great and I have bought tons of stuff from them over the years. It's like comparing mercedes to bmw or something. different but both great
there are thousands of cars with ECS kits running great and the only reason a car with one kit or the other would kick a belt is if the install was done badly and belt alignment wasn't checked. that is the only reason.
there are ECS cars in the 8s in the quarter mile and their stuff is great quality and they have amazing customer service imo. A&A is also great and I have bought tons of stuff from them over the years. It's like comparing mercedes to bmw or something. different but both great
Team Owner
Joined: Nov 2007
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From: Gilbert AZ
Any kit installed incorrectly will toss belts.
ECS kit is just as good or better than the A&A. Its a nicer bar/plate core. Just because it doesnt' "look as cool" doesn't mean it doesn't function. I've made well over 1100rwhp on it.
Plenty of A&A cars toss belts.
ECS kit is just as good or better than the A&A. Its a nicer bar/plate core. Just because it doesnt' "look as cool" doesn't mean it doesn't function. I've made well over 1100rwhp on it.
Plenty of A&A cars toss belts.
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Race Director
Joined: May 2004
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From: Raleigh, NC
St. Jude Donor '15
I am not saying the ECS is crap or anything. But I've spoken to a lot of shops and a lot of kit owners about the differences.
A looooot of the ECS kit owners kick belts. A friend of mine, who had his kit installed by a very reputable shop, kicked belts allllll the time. I think it was 5 in 18 months and he barely raced the car! Can probably find that on the A&A side, but I haven't read one yet.
I have also heard how the ECS intercooler setup isn't to great.
These things dont don't make the kit bad (although it sure sounds like I'm killing it), just make it slightly inferior. All of the supercharged kits that I've seen all have ECS. They all love it.
I wouldn't have been upset buying an ECS kit.
A looooot of the ECS kit owners kick belts. A friend of mine, who had his kit installed by a very reputable shop, kicked belts allllll the time. I think it was 5 in 18 months and he barely raced the car! Can probably find that on the A&A side, but I haven't read one yet.
I have also heard how the ECS intercooler setup isn't to great.
These things dont don't make the kit bad (although it sure sounds like I'm killing it), just make it slightly inferior. All of the supercharged kits that I've seen all have ECS. They all love it.
I wouldn't have been upset buying an ECS kit.
I'm not saying the ECS kit is perfect, because it isn't. There are things I would change if it were up to me
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Drifting
Joined: Jul 2005
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From: East Strouds PA
Even with a new fuel pump and new BAP I still did not have quite enough fuel to be safe and I also was leaning out by 6k rpm. Doug installed the ECS kit that allowed me to drop 2 pulley sizes while keeping afr rich enough, raising octane and cooling things down a bit. Turning the rev limiter back to over 7k where an LS7 belongs.
Basically was able to pick up nearly 100HP from the original eforce setup.
I only need it when I punch it....however, it seems that the light comes on a bit early since the PD blower does its thing even at light throttle. Thats ok it helps IAT lower for when I need power.
If there is a 5 psi switch available might be better. We will see how this really works once Im roasting in summer traffic.
Basically was able to pick up nearly 100HP from the original eforce setup.
I only need it when I punch it....however, it seems that the light comes on a bit early since the PD blower does its thing even at light throttle. Thats ok it helps IAT lower for when I need power.
If there is a 5 psi switch available might be better. We will see how this really works once Im roasting in summer traffic.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,820
Likes: 411
From: Montreal
St. Jude Donor '13
Even with a new fuel pump and new BAP I still did not have quite enough fuel to be safe and I also was leaning out by 6k rpm. Doug installed the ECS kit that allowed me to drop 2 pulley sizes while keeping afr rich enough, raising octane and cooling things down a bit. Turning the rev limiter back to over 7k where an LS7 belongs.
Basically was able to pick up nearly 100HP from the original eforce setup.
I only need it when I punch it....however, it seems that the light comes on a bit early since the PD blower does its thing even at light throttle. Thats ok it helps IAT lower for when I need power.
If there is a 5 psi switch available might be better. We will see how this really works once Im roasting in summer traffic.
Basically was able to pick up nearly 100HP from the original eforce setup.
I only need it when I punch it....however, it seems that the light comes on a bit early since the PD blower does its thing even at light throttle. Thats ok it helps IAT lower for when I need power.
If there is a 5 psi switch available might be better. We will see how this really works once Im roasting in summer traffic.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 8,375
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From: Somewhere in the Mid 9's TX
I've run both kits, and tossed belts on both. All due to alignment or a bad aftermarket balancers. Fortunately, my current ECS kit has been aligned properly and never tossed a belt.
As for meth, it's a great addition to these cars. Wouldn't run over 600-650 without one.
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Racer
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 336
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From: outside new orleans Louisiana
has anyone tried the prometh system? i really like the idea of the tank in back or does anyone know where/picture of the old AIS tank they made that fit in the fender?
might order the prometh tank and ecs kit.
might order the prometh tank and ecs kit.
Race Director
Joined: May 2004
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From: Raleigh, NC
St. Jude Donor '15
People complain about the risk for leaks on windshield wiper tank, but I don't really see any risk on C6's. I mean, worst case it leaks and drips methanol on the ground which evaporates in like 5 seconds anyways. Not like it can drip on a header or something
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Drifting
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Charlotte N.C.
I had an M3 with a GT35r on it and water injection. Tank and motor were in the trunk. There was always a lag before injection due to length of the line into the intake. Had to install an accumulator device under the bumper to be sure fluid was available immediately. Check valve and everything. It worked but I still feel the closer the reservoir and pump to the engine the better. I'm sure pumps are better now.
Last edited by TTZ06VETTE; Mar 28, 2017 at 05:16 PM.
