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Old Sep 11, 2018 | 07:50 AM
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Going to build my engine for a TT setup (TTIX kit)
Really the hardest point is to choose the right (CR), some said go for 9.2 and the others suggest 10.5 and higher.
I'm going to use pump gas for normal use 95ron (part throttle) and I'll put C16 for any race event.
900-1000whp is the goal, So what do you think is the good CR to go with?

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Sorry guys I didn't write the engine details
it will be 377cid fully forged and the boost will be around 18psi.

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my 427 lsx build from LME is 9.5. running a ysi 93 pump gas+meth
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Talk to your tuner, the higher the better Octane permitting of course.
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Sorry guys I didn't write the engine details
it will be 377cid fully forged and the boost will be around 18psi.
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Old Sep 11, 2018 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gameover4
my 427 lsx build from LME is 9.5. running a ysi 93 pump gas+meth
I'll not use meth I don't trust those kits at all :\
93 in USA that's 98 here and we don't have it, the maximum is 95ron which is 91 in USA.
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- which engine controller
- which spark plugs
- how much boost
- drivability (bucking/surging ok or not etc.)
- what kind of fuel economy desired
- any need for keeping max torq lower for drivetrain longevity
- what cam
- need to pass emissions
- how safe (or how near at the edge...)

So it all depends.

Ask your tuner (and engine builder, if any) which he/she feels being ok for your goals.

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Old Sep 11, 2018 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JetstreamGS
Talk to your tuner, the higher the better Octane permitting of course.
I talked to him last night he said go with 10.5 or 10.8 but I guess it's very high for weekend driving around the city.
For sure if there any racing challenge I'll put C16 and downloading the tune to the ECU.
What I'm afraid of is engine knocking in part throttle and that may be damaging the pistons.
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Originally Posted by Pekka_Perkeles
- which engine controller Stock
- which spark plugs NGK TR7
- how much boost 18PSI
- drivability (bucking/surging ok or not etc.) Sleeper mood
- what kind of fuel economy desired Doesn't matter at all lol
- any need for keeping max torq lower for drivetrain longevity Yes
- what cam My engine builder will take care of it
- need to pass emissions No
- how safe (or how near at the edge...) In the middle

So it all depends.

Ask your tuner (and engine builder, if any) which he/she feels being ok for your goals.
Tuner said 10.5 and the Engine builder said 9.2 and they are working together in the same garage
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Boost doesn't mean anything. Can't pick plugs at this stage without CR or cam, etc.

Do what tuner said. 9.2 is crazy low.
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Originally Posted by Unreal
Boost doesn't mean anything. Can't pick plugs at this stage without CR or cam, etc.

Do what tuner said. 9.2 is crazy low.
I think I'll go in between let's say 9,8-10
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For my ~1200rwhp setup, running flex fuel, I'm targetting 10-10.2:1. If car will only be run on good gas or e85, go higher.
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If you're going to use c16 when you run it hard, I'd target 10.5 at minimum. You tuner can keep it safe on your 95ron tune so you can drive it around.

A buddy is running 12:1 on a LSX 427/YSI making 1100whp and 1300whp on nitrous. Using e85 fuel.

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Old Oct 23, 2018 | 03:03 AM
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update
10.4 will be the CR.

Thanks all for sharing your experiences
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On flex I'm running 11:1, I used to do 11.5:1 on 93 when I was NA
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Originally Posted by Ant-Man
On flex I'm running 11:1, I used to do 11.5:1 on 93 when I was NA
unfortunately we don’t have flex fuel here even 93 :’(
only 91 pump gas(95 ron) or VP Racing MS109-C16.
So I’ll use C16 in racing nights and 91 for part throttle.
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