Alky questions
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Alky questions
Have a 06 car with A&A kit and conservative tune laying down 530whp. Thinking about a basic alky kit to lower IAT, raise octane as safety measure and a bit of extra power if possible. Can I add the kit without doing another tune or would I need to retune at that time? Will I get a marginal bump in power by just adding the kit without retune? I might want to go smaller pulley and tune for a good bump up in power in the future but not at this time. Thanks
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You won't be able to spray much without taking some fuel out of the tune so your gains will be limited. Lower IAT's will help a little but the real gains come from taking advantage of the added octane by adding timing and/or boost. Without changing anything else you will run rich and will be very safe but you won't get significant power gains.What is your wot AFR/lambda now?
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Good info thanks. Not sure what the AFR is because I did the SC about 8 years ago and that info is in the wind.
really don’t want to much gains at this time, how much power do you think it would add with an alky kit and conservative meth tune, ballpark number?
really don’t want to much gains at this time, how much power do you think it would add with an alky kit and conservative meth tune, ballpark number?
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That's really impossible to say...it depends on how much timing is being pulled due to IAT's (if any) and how rich or lean you are now. On cars that are pulling a lot of timing you might see 40-50whp from meth but if you really aren't pushing it that hard it will be a lot less. If you're only making 530whp now and aren't planning on turning it up at all I doubt you'll see much gain. It also depends what fuel you are tuned on now...maybe if you're running really crappy 91 you'd see more timing gain with meth.
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I have an E-force that I had dyno tuned this past weekend and the IAT's were hitting 160 - 170 F. Was thinking of adding a Alky Injection system to spray 100% meth to keep the IAT's consistent. I would prefer to just add the meth injection for cooling and not have to re-tune.
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Nice numbers. Was the increase with Meth due to tuning for the Meth or was this just the difference between with and without Meth on the same tune?
I have an E-force that I had dyno tuned this past weekend and the IAT's were hitting 160 - 170 F. Was thinking of adding a Alky Injection system to spray 100% meth to keep the IAT's consistent. I would prefer to just add the meth injection for cooling and not have to re-tune.
I have an E-force that I had dyno tuned this past weekend and the IAT's were hitting 160 - 170 F. Was thinking of adding a Alky Injection system to spray 100% meth to keep the IAT's consistent. I would prefer to just add the meth injection for cooling and not have to re-tune.
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Was thinking of injecting a minimal amount of 100% meth as a chemical intercooler to control IAT's but I don't want my car to be dependent on the Meth for power.
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That’s primarily what I’m interested in doing also. If I get a bit of extra power to go along with that would be gravy.