intercooler options
Melting Slicks
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Treadstone intercoolers work well for the price and fit up front fairly easily. I notched the cross rail and used the TR1245, but you could use the TR1045 if you don't feel like notching it.
Team Owner
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From: Gilbert AZ
Bigger doesnt mean better.
ECS has an optional larger core.
If you are going through hassle, do a nice custom setup or the ECS big core. That being said, made 1100rwhp with ease on base ECS FMIC, so what are you trying to do? When I upgraded all it did was cause more overheating/heat issues for the radiator.
ECS has an optional larger core.
If you are going through hassle, do a nice custom setup or the ECS big core. That being said, made 1100rwhp with ease on base ECS FMIC, so what are you trying to do? When I upgraded all it did was cause more overheating/heat issues for the radiator.
Team Owner
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From: Gilbert AZ
If you are going for 1200+hp, sure it can use an upgrade, and when you get into 900+ you can see gains, but for most people they are not there. Plus the smaller IC allows more air to the radiator and car so it doesn't overheat as easy.
Plus tube/fin vs bar/plate, vs fin density/etc etc. Size is such a small part of a FMIC efficiency.
Plus tube/fin vs bar/plate, vs fin density/etc etc. Size is such a small part of a FMIC efficiency.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2003
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Bigger doesnt mean better.
ECS has an optional larger core.
If you are going through hassle, do a nice custom setup or the ECS big core. That being said, made 1100rwhp with ease on base ECS FMIC, so what are you trying to do? When I upgraded all it did was cause more overheating/heat issues for the radiator.
ECS has an optional larger core.
If you are going through hassle, do a nice custom setup or the ECS big core. That being said, made 1100rwhp with ease on base ECS FMIC, so what are you trying to do? When I upgraded all it did was cause more overheating/heat issues for the radiator.
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Melting Slicks
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I had some of his stuff, most of it doesn't package well in the typical vette engine bay but it looks nice. Wasn't terribly impressed by the $1,500+ intercooler when it barely out performed the $400-500 range intercoolers. Money can certainly be spent elsewhere, especially on E85 that isn't as picky about IAT's as pump gas. But for race cars and those without a tight budget he makes some nice stuff.
Racer
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Better core will always be beneficial regardless of power levels, but like unreal has mentioned until you're pushing 900+ one of the standard or even china cores will be fine.
.Setup also can impact IAT issues. If you have a small blower or small turbo and start spinning them hard they start to pump hot air a lot quicker.
.Setup also can impact IAT issues. If you have a small blower or small turbo and start spinning them hard they start to pump hot air a lot quicker.
Melting Slicks
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Better core will always be beneficial regardless of power levels, but like unreal has mentioned until you're pushing 900+ one of the standard or even china cores will be fine.
.Setup also can impact IAT issues. If you have a small blower or small turbo and start spinning them hard they start to pump hot air a lot quicker.
.Setup also can impact IAT issues. If you have a small blower or small turbo and start spinning them hard they start to pump hot air a lot quicker.
Currently I run two 1000hp china A2W cores and on a 30psi quarter mile pass I get 5-7 degree rise, on shearers 1800hp hi ram intercooler I got a 10-15 degree rise. So its a $150 vs $1600 decision people have to make. The shearer did do a bit better than the china air to air cores not by a huge amount.
Melting Slicks
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Most all the air to water cores have less pressure drop then the air to airs, some of the china air to airs have pretty bad pressure loss.
Le Mans Master
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From: Austin Tx
$800 is a good price point for a complete garrett. You should have less temp rise with some ice, on a ~75-80 degree day we didn't see over 95 degree IAT with shearers unit.
Most all the air to water cores have less pressure drop then the air to airs, some of the china air to airs have pretty bad pressure loss.
Most all the air to water cores have less pressure drop then the air to airs, some of the china air to airs have pretty bad pressure loss.
Melting Slicks
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thats a lot more power than what Garrett say their core will support. Isn’t the 24x12x4.5 only rated to 950bhp? You have 2inch chopped off that as well.
Melting Slicks
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Currently I run two 1000hp china A2W cores and on a 30psi quarter mile pass I get 5-7 degree rise, on shearers 1800hp hi ram intercooler I got a 10-15 degree rise. So its a $150 vs $1600 decision people have to make. The shearer did do a bit better than the china air to air cores not by a huge amount.
Le Mans Master
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From: Austin Tx
It's 2 cores welded together. 12x10x4.5. The guy that built my end tanks for it runs the same cores on his 1600+whp truck.
Melting Slicks
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