C6 Forced Induction/Nitrous C6 Corvette Turbochargers, Superchargers, Pulley Upgrades, Intercoolers, Wet and Dry Nitrous Injection, Meth
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Fuel system?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 4, 2021 | 06:10 PM
  #1  
Wcodyt17's Avatar
Wcodyt17
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 46
Likes: 3
Default Fuel system?

Looking to upgraded fuel system. Opinions on drawing?

planning on eliminating the stock fuel line and system all together. running a line from passenger tank to driver tank to bridge them, then running a 4303 from the driver tank to the rails.



trying to stay with one pump

have considered running the 4303 on a hobbs switch with my a1000 in tank but I’d rather do one pump and call it a day



goal is 1000whp on e85

Last edited by Wcodyt17; Oct 4, 2021 at 07:01 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2021 | 07:00 PM
  #2  
jeffjansen19's Avatar
jeffjansen19
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 123
Likes: 13
From: Louisiana
Default

I have a similar fuel system for sale if you havent already started collecting parts. My injector duty cycle was only 45% @ 1115/1035.
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2021 | 07:01 PM
  #3  
Wcodyt17's Avatar
Wcodyt17
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 46
Likes: 3
Default

Originally Posted by jeffjansen19
I have a similar fuel system for sale if you havent already started collecting parts. My injector duty cycle was only 45% @ 1115/1035.
on e85? Only thing i have coming is the 4303. Pm me details
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2021 | 10:36 PM
  #4  
jenavet's Avatar
jenavet
Instructor
 
Joined: Jun 2021
Posts: 125
Likes: 10
Default

Originally Posted by Wcodyt17
Looking to upgraded fuel system. Opinions on drawing?

planning on eliminating the stock fuel line and system all together. running a line from passenger tank to driver tank to bridge them, then running a 4303 from the driver tank to the rails.



trying to stay with one pump

have considered running the 4303 on a hobbs switch with my a1000 in tank but I’d rather do one pump and call it a day



goal is 1000whp on e85
I run that exact set up and on c16.im 1120rwhp and the system starts to run out of fuel around 6700 rpm.Magnafuel told me i would have to switch over to the pro race pump to get more fuel delivery but that pump is race only and cant be driven on the street.
Reply
Old Oct 7, 2021 | 08:16 PM
  #5  
Unreal's Avatar
Unreal
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 24,035
Likes: 2,341
From: Gilbert AZ
Default

Only issue I see with a system like that is gas gauge expects one tank to drain before the other. So may have issues unless you find a way to deal with that. I think someone made a custom one off box to do that, but never think it made it to production. As long you are ok with no gas gauge. Otherwise just run a fore system and be done.
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2021 | 03:45 AM
  #6  
romandian's Avatar
romandian
Drifting
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,973
Likes: 108
From: Switzerland
Default

what car is that? there might be a difference as to what the ecu is expecting.
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2021 | 10:31 PM
  #7  
schpenxel's Avatar
schpenxel
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 16,667
Likes: 1,209
From: Raleigh, NC
St. Jude Donor '15
Default

Why? Just run a fore setup and be done with it.
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2021 | 10:32 PM
  #8  
schpenxel's Avatar
schpenxel
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 16,667
Likes: 1,209
From: Raleigh, NC
St. Jude Donor '15
Default

Originally Posted by Unreal
I think someone made a custom one off box to do that, but never think it made it to production. .
That was me . Made a few for some single fuel tank setups, etc.

Last edited by schpenxel; Oct 9, 2021 at 10:33 PM.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 11, 2021 | 01:45 PM
  #9  
jeffjansen19's Avatar
jeffjansen19
Instructor
 
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 123
Likes: 13
From: Louisiana
Default

Originally Posted by Unreal
Only issue I see with a system like that is gas gauge expects one tank to drain before the other. So may have issues unless you find a way to deal with that. I think someone made a custom one off box to do that, but never think it made it to production. As long you are ok with no gas gauge. Otherwise just run a fore system and be done.
So my fuel system is setup exactly like this with the exception of connecting the two tanks together. I did it the correct way using the regulator block offs in both tanks. Gas gauge works perfect.
Reply
Old Oct 11, 2021 | 05:22 PM
  #10  
Unreal's Avatar
Unreal
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 24,035
Likes: 2,341
From: Gilbert AZ
Default

Originally Posted by jeffjansen19
So my fuel system is setup exactly like this with the exception of connecting the two tanks together. I did it the correct way using the regulator block offs in both tanks. Gas gauge works perfect.
As it should, because one tank will drain, then the other. If you connect the two tanks together, they go down at the same rate, and flag a error on the fuel system, which throws a CE light and causes gauge to goto zero.
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2021 | 11:57 PM
  #11  
srm077's Avatar
srm077
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 187
Likes: 43
Default

Mine is similar but Magnafuel recommends a -12 feed to the pump(YES I KNOW THE INLET IS -8) and then a -10 from the outlet to to the Y, That is what I have and then -6s back to the regulator off the front of the rails. And a -8 back to the tank. Zero fuel issues. My factory pump feeds into a T before the Y and there is a check valve to ensure when the Magnafuel is not on that the factory pump is not back filling the tank. I usually manually trigger the Magnafuel but if I forget a Hobbs switch will trigger it and if that fails, it has a backup AFR trigger. Spent wayyyy too much on my long block to burn it up. To be clear- all the stock stuff is still in place.

Last edited by srm077; Oct 20, 2021 at 12:04 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2021 | 12:06 AM
  #12  
srm077's Avatar
srm077
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 187
Likes: 43
Default

To add. My main reason for doing this is cost and ease of replacement. The FORE fails and you are screwed. My in tank fails and I can flip a switch and run the Magnafuel which is plenty to support 1500 wheel on its own. IF the Magnafuel fails it takes 25 minutes to swap it and thats with 2 beers. Screw the in tank crap.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2021 | 12:13 AM
  #13  
srm077's Avatar
srm077
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 187
Likes: 43
Default

Originally Posted by jenavet
I run that exact set up and on c16.im 1120rwhp and the system starts to run out of fuel around 6700 rpm.Magnafuel told me i would have to switch over to the pro race pump to get more fuel delivery but that pump is race only and cant be driven on the street.
Feed the pump with a -12 and make sure its getting at least 14 volts. My car makes well over your number on E85 and has no issues. You will not run out of fuel if the 4303 is setup correctly. Also make sure your tank is vented properly as the pump will create negative pressure and the factory vent cannot allow enough air into the tank to make up for the outflow. Worst cast, add a BAP to the system and set it for 18 volts when the Magnafuel is triggered. The pumps want and need the voltage. It does not hurt them one bit.

Last edited by srm077; Oct 20, 2021 at 12:15 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2021 | 01:02 AM
  #14  
SinisterC6's Avatar
SinisterC6
Speedy
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 6,100
Likes: 928
From: Tn
2024 C8 of the Year Finalist - Modified
Default

I ran a 4303 and got about 2-3000 miles of street miles on their brushed pumps. I hope it does better for you. I have since gone with the Holley VR2 brushless pump which flows twice as much at 14v. I was up to about 1500 before I had to add a 18v booster
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2021 | 11:03 AM
  #15  
srm077's Avatar
srm077
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 187
Likes: 43
Default

Originally Posted by SinisterC6
I ran a 4303 and got about 2-3000 miles of street miles on their brushed pumps. I hope it does better for you. I have since gone with the Holley VR2 brushless pump which flows twice as much at 14v. I was up to about 1500 before I had to add a 18v booster
Most of the Drag Week / Rocky Mountain Race Week folks have huge success with the 4303 if it is not starved for fuel- IT is continuous duty rated as well. The inlet size and constant voltage are the key to making one live, They will support 1500 wheel with no issue and are cheap. The brushless pumps are excellent too. I can buy 5 4303's for the cost of the Holley pump. And why would you need a pump that is capable of 4000 HP? I am all about overkill but damn.

Last edited by srm077; Oct 20, 2021 at 11:05 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2021 | 11:22 AM
  #16  
skydaman's Avatar
skydaman
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,155
Likes: 269
Default

Originally Posted by srm077
Most of the Drag Week / Rocky Mountain Race Week folks have huge success with the 4303 if it is not starved for fuel- IT is continuous duty rated as well. The inlet size and constant voltage are the key to making one live, They will support 1500 wheel with no issue and are cheap. The brushless pumps are excellent too. I can buy 5 4303's for the cost of the Holley pump. And why would you need a pump that is capable of 4000 HP? I am all about overkill but damn.
It sounds like a lot of pump, OMG 4000hp which is nonsense marketing because almost nobody makes 4000hp NA, when you get into the details of forced induction applications and higher fuel pressures the supported HP drops fast. In real life that pump on a car running big boost on E85 may only support 1800-1900whp. I've seen guys take that pump out and replace it with an Aeromotive 10GPM which is cheaper, cleaner install, and flows more. I always like a big single brushless pump over pretty much any other fuel pump setup.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2021 | 01:52 AM
  #17  
romandian's Avatar
romandian
Drifting
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,973
Likes: 108
From: Switzerland
Default

Originally Posted by srm077
Mine is similar but Magnafuel recommends a -12 feed to the pump(YES I KNOW THE INLET IS -8) and then a -10 from the outlet to to the Y, That is what I have and then -6s back to the regulator off the front of the rails. And a -8 back to the tank. Zero fuel issues. My factory pump feeds into a T before the Y and there is a check valve to ensure when the Magnafuel is not on that the factory pump is not back filling the tank. I usually manually trigger the Magnafuel but if I forget a Hobbs switch will trigger it and if that fails, it has a backup AFR trigger. Spent wayyyy too much on my long block to burn it up. To be clear- all the stock stuff is still in place.
how did you do the "afr trigger"?
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2021 | 06:05 PM
  #18  
srm077's Avatar
srm077
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 187
Likes: 43
Default

Originally Posted by romandian
how did you do the "afr trigger"?
Personally my setup uses a AEM Failsafe wideband but there are multiple options out there. I just already had the AEM and you can program it to do many things like activate a timing retard too if the AFR goes above a certain level (trigger a LNC 2000) is the easiest way to pull timing and safe the engine.

Last edited by srm077; Oct 24, 2021 at 06:06 PM.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Fuel system?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:55 AM.

story-0
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-2
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE