I find it really ridiculous that nobody has released free or nearly free open source tuning software for the c6. Is there anybody that is attempting to get this working or is no one working on it? All of the tuning options available are very expensive so there is a big opportunity here for somebody to produce something that is free or costs a lot less.

 

 

Only a matter of time... C5 world there's a few options now that are actively progressing and developing. That might be the natural next step once they sort out all the gen3 stuff that they want to. PCM hammer.

 

Everybody wants something for nothing. Why don't you put in the work to develop the software yourself, and then give it away?

 

yeah I saw NSFW’s github, it seems really promising. I wonder how different the gen3 stuff is compared to gen4, maybe the jump isn’t so large.

 

I would have no issue giving it away or selling it for a small sum (under 100 bucks). It would be better for everyone if it was free or cheap. We could have a massive online db of tunes for pretty much every possible engine configuration. You could get a tune that is 90% of the way there in seconds instead of having to pay your tuner 600+ bucks and tow your car to a dyno every time you change a cam or heads.

 

You've blown 2-3 engine already from your tuner, now you want to upload a tune from a stranger who you dont know their experience level because the guy says the car runs great, just like stock til boost kicks in. Just because you buy ( cheap or expensive ) tuning software doesn't mean that user knows how to use it.

Thats a little to risky for me to trust a yahoo stranger that bought a tuning platform and thinks because the software can tune 10 different manufacturer platforms, so can he.

You can download those types of tune from the HP Tuners tune repository. What you wont find in the tune repository is quality shops posting their final solid tune, because every Yahoo would be downloading the and up loading it to your car. Many good tuning shops might post up new stock tunes for you to compare.
Spend $500 bucks on a tuning platform, do some on line reading, and tune your own car for "$600" would be much more rewarding for you.

There's some cheap systems out there, but they do not add much value to performance.

 

I mean it's $400 total to buy an interface and licenses now.. hardly highway robbery when people spend $1500-2000 just for some long tubes on these things.

 

Help me out here.
My bizness skills are lacking.

If someone developed (time and money) a tuning system that they could release for Free, what is the big opportunity for them?
Love and admiration from the C6 community?
Lots of pats on the back?
Can we cover payroll with 'pats on the back' these days? LOL.

Most people will never understand, and rightfully so, how much work goes into just defining a single calibration. Its unreal. 1000s and 1000s of lines that have to be sought out and identified, formulas applied, SOOO much work goes into making something that appears to be a simple timing table or fuel map, etc.
Not even gonna guess how many C6 calibrations there are, but you have E40 and E38 cars, t42 and t43 cars, and at least 2 flavors of that E38 that happened around 2010.
Compared to the dozens of contollers supported by most of us these days, that may not seem like much, but there is a reason this hasn't happened already, that's for sure.
Also, hardware to flash the car is important.
Some $30 device that came from who knows where is not something I would ever connect to my OBDII port and send an erase command down, at least not if i ever hoped to see that pcm alive again.

I equate this to going to the doctor, or calling a plumber. Some things are best left to a pro, and that costs money.

 

Agreed 100%... I'm a controls engineer and program a variety of automated systems. The skill, time, and resources it takes to roll out any turnkey system is unimaginable by most people. It all seems so simple until you actually get behind the scenes. Someone who doesn't know anything about this stuff usually says, "Well all you gotta do is ___________..." I'm like, yeah OK buddy.

 

Yes exactly. I'm sure that in 2050 there will be non OE manufactures ECM's and programming available for my 05 and every other sports or muscle car. Just like there are frames/parts/engines etc. for 60's and 70's muscle cars. We just have to wait.

 

That already exists.
Terminator Max for LS, basically plug and play stand alone controller.

 

There is tons of open source software that is completely free that took thousands upon thousands of man hours to develop, the reason people release open source software is because it is better for everyone long term. You end up getting a better product and it is better for consumers. I’m a software engineer by trade, I use open source software every day.

 

Its your pre corona thinking. Now we sneeze into our elbow, then do elbow bumps lol

we;ll be dead soon or be trading chickens and hogs for services lol

 

Makes zero sense to me also. But it happens all the time in the Computer world. I don't see it happening here through.