Ron Zimmer programed my C6
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Drifting
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Ron Zimmer programed my C6
My C6 is a 6 Speed Z51. Prior to tunning these were the mods:
Modified air box, 33-2136 K&N's cut covers flush with filters.
Kooks long tube headers and cats, (no codes)
Magnaflows cat back system
This is what Ron did in terms of tunning:
Set rev limiter to 6850 rpm
added 2 degrees across the board
Limited retard to 2 degrees at higher temps above 200.
trimmed fuel maps.
No cags or fans yet. This is the first program, it's very conserative.
Car runs great! It pulls hard to 6800! Next, I'm putting Jessel 1.8 rockers on. This will bump my cam lift to .556. Also Ron did alot of things that I can't post. Ron also told me that TQ management is not an issue in 6 speeds. I agree because all of my dyno pulls at both magnaflow and superior automotive, the torque line had no dips in them. They were flat and smooth. He did say that it is an issue in autos. Anyway, I'm happy, cars happy. Things are getting better in C6 land.
Andy G.
Modified air box, 33-2136 K&N's cut covers flush with filters.
Kooks long tube headers and cats, (no codes)
Magnaflows cat back system
This is what Ron did in terms of tunning:
Set rev limiter to 6850 rpm
added 2 degrees across the board
Limited retard to 2 degrees at higher temps above 200.
trimmed fuel maps.
No cags or fans yet. This is the first program, it's very conserative.
Car runs great! It pulls hard to 6800! Next, I'm putting Jessel 1.8 rockers on. This will bump my cam lift to .556. Also Ron did alot of things that I can't post. Ron also told me that TQ management is not an issue in 6 speeds. I agree because all of my dyno pulls at both magnaflow and superior automotive, the torque line had no dips in them. They were flat and smooth. He did say that it is an issue in autos. Anyway, I'm happy, cars happy. Things are getting better in C6 land.
Andy G.
Last edited by andreas g.; Feb 9, 2005 at 11:43 AM. Reason: additional materal
Drifting
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I am a HUGE drag strip fan to verify mod effectiveness. I also use my G-tech to verify sometimes..
The first thing I would do after ANY mod it run the car to see how much of an improvement was achieved.
There are so many people out there that spend thousands and really get nothing or little in the way of actual performance increases. I know, because I spent 6k at Champion on my Porsche and actually LOST HP.
Go to the strip and see what she will run!
I have almost 20 runs with my stock C6. I will know for sure if I am making more power once I start to add mods. Too bad Ron can’t tune the Auto’s yet.
The first thing I would do after ANY mod it run the car to see how much of an improvement was achieved.
There are so many people out there that spend thousands and really get nothing or little in the way of actual performance increases. I know, because I spent 6k at Champion on my Porsche and actually LOST HP.
Go to the strip and see what she will run!
I have almost 20 runs with my stock C6. I will know for sure if I am making more power once I start to add mods. Too bad Ron can’t tune the Auto’s yet.
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I have used Ron before like I said in a if post. He has work on most of the Vette Shops around the USA. He has been the man behind the computers of many famous tuners. I am sure when that new web site starts he will be very famous then. Then we will all be surprised. on who he knows and who got what programs from who. Like they say R&D or R&C (research and copy)
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Andreas, Got any before and after Dyno #s ?? I'm looking to go with what you have, short of the rockers. A PM's fine if you want to keep the Mods under your hat. Thanks. 
Drifting
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Originally Posted by FLC6
I am a HUGE drag strip fan to verify mod effectiveness. I also use my G-tech to verify sometimes..
The first thing I would do after ANY mod it run the car to see how much of an improvement was achieved.
There are so many people out there that spend thousands and really get nothing or little in the way of actual performance increases. I know, because I spent 6k at Champion on my Porsche and actually LOST HP.
Go to the strip and see what she will run!
I have almost 20 runs with my stock C6. I will know for sure if I am making more power once I start to add mods. Too bad Ron can’t tune the Auto’s yet.
The first thing I would do after ANY mod it run the car to see how much of an improvement was achieved.
There are so many people out there that spend thousands and really get nothing or little in the way of actual performance increases. I know, because I spent 6k at Champion on my Porsche and actually LOST HP.
Go to the strip and see what she will run!
I have almost 20 runs with my stock C6. I will know for sure if I am making more power once I start to add mods. Too bad Ron can’t tune the Auto’s yet.
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Drifting
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they are 1 3/4 with high flow cats. I got them at carteck, but andy green in ventura sells them A&A corvettes. I paid $1600 including the o2 extenders. Had them put in at superior automotive in Anaheim Ca.
714-503-1880 Ask for Joe Jill. As for visual inspection, most likely not, but I'm not worried. It's a factory look install, and they work.
Andy G
714-503-1880 Ask for Joe Jill. As for visual inspection, most likely not, but I'm not worried. It's a factory look install, and they work.
Andy G
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From: CA
Originally Posted by andreas g.
This is what Ron did in terms of tunning:
Set rev limiter to 6850 rpm
Andy G.
Set rev limiter to 6850 rpm
Andy G.
the rev limiter?
How do you know that repeated trips to 6800 rpm
won't cause some sort of engine issue? Are you just
feeling lucky?
Pat
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Originally Posted by catpat8000
Just curious but aren't you worried about raising
the rev limiter?
How do you know that repeated trips to 6800 rpm
won't cause some sort of engine issue? Are you just
feeling lucky?
Pat
the rev limiter?
How do you know that repeated trips to 6800 rpm
won't cause some sort of engine issue? Are you just
feeling lucky?
Pat
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Originally Posted by Jerseyboy
Just because the limiter is set there, doesn't mean you have to shift it there! You could still shift at 64-6500 and it just gives you a bit more leeway before hitting the limiter.
Jersey
Jersey
keep the engine safe) unless you plan to hit it?
Pat
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Originally Posted by andreas g.
they are 1 3/4 with high flow cats. I got them at carteck, but andy green in ventura sells them A&A corvettes. I paid $1600 including the o2 extenders. Had them put in at superior automotive in Anaheim Ca.
714-503-1880 Ask for Joe Jill. As for visual inspection, most likely not, but I'm not worried. It's a factory look install, and they work.
Andy G
714-503-1880 Ask for Joe Jill. As for visual inspection, most likely not, but I'm not worried. It's a factory look install, and they work.
Andy G
Do you remember the install cost?
I'm trying to estimate a total cost for this mod.
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Cause **** happens and it's better to have a little padding on the rev limiter. Hitting the rev limiter isn't exactly good for your engine. So if you raise it but still shift at 64-6500 then all your doing is giving yourself a little buffer. Or if maybe your running out of RPM on the top end of the track then that would help. Or if your spraying nitrous then you definately don't want to hit the rev limiter.
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Drifting
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I'm sorry, the cost of the install of the kooks was $225 which I felt was a good price.
Andy G.
P.S. I don't plan to hit 6800 RPMS It just that I can go solid to 6500-6600 and not bang the limiter. Thats not real good for your motor, because it's a fuel shut-off not ignition, so you go super lean at high R's
Andy G.
P.S. I don't plan to hit 6800 RPMS It just that I can go solid to 6500-6600 and not bang the limiter. Thats not real good for your motor, because it's a fuel shut-off not ignition, so you go super lean at high R's
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Originally Posted by andreas g.
My C6 is a 6 Speed Z51. Prior to tunning these were the mods:
Modified air box, 33-2136 K&N's cut covers flush with filters.
Kooks long tube headers and cats, (no codes)
Magnaflows cat back system
This is what Ron did in terms of tunning:
Set rev limiter to 6850 rpm
added 2 degrees across the board
Limited retard to 2 degrees at higher temps above 200.
trimmed fuel maps.
No cags or fans yet. This is the first program, it's very conserative.
Car runs great! It pulls hard to 6800! Next, I'm putting Jessel 1.8 rockers on. This will bump my cam lift to .556. Also Ron did alot of things that I can't post. Ron also told me that TQ management is not an issue in 6 speeds. I agree because all of my dyno pulls at both magnaflow and superior automotive, the torque line had no dips in them. They were flat and smooth. He did say that it is an issue in autos. Anyway, I'm happy, cars happy. Things are getting better in C6 land.
Andy G.
Modified air box, 33-2136 K&N's cut covers flush with filters.
Kooks long tube headers and cats, (no codes)
Magnaflows cat back system
This is what Ron did in terms of tunning:
Set rev limiter to 6850 rpm
added 2 degrees across the board
Limited retard to 2 degrees at higher temps above 200.
trimmed fuel maps.
No cags or fans yet. This is the first program, it's very conserative.
Car runs great! It pulls hard to 6800! Next, I'm putting Jessel 1.8 rockers on. This will bump my cam lift to .556. Also Ron did alot of things that I can't post. Ron also told me that TQ management is not an issue in 6 speeds. I agree because all of my dyno pulls at both magnaflow and superior automotive, the torque line had no dips in them. They were flat and smooth. He did say that it is an issue in autos. Anyway, I'm happy, cars happy. Things are getting better in C6 land.
Andy G.
Last edited by jimman; Feb 10, 2005 at 10:29 PM.
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Originally Posted by andreas g.
My C6 is a 6 Speed Z51. Prior to tunning these were the mods:
Modified air box, 33-2136 K&N's cut covers flush with filters.
Kooks long tube headers and cats, (no codes)
Magnaflows cat back system
This is what Ron did in terms of tunning:
Set rev limiter to 6850 rpm
added 2 degrees across the board
Limited retard to 2 degrees at higher temps above 200.
trimmed fuel maps.
No cags or fans yet. This is the first program, it's very conserative.
Car runs great! It pulls hard to 6800! Next, I'm putting Jessel 1.8 rockers on. This will bump my cam lift to .556. Also Ron did alot of things that I can't post. Ron also told me that TQ management is not an issue in 6 speeds. I agree because all of my dyno pulls at both magnaflow and superior automotive, the torque line had no dips in them. They were flat and smooth. He did say that it is an issue in autos. Anyway, I'm happy, cars happy. Things are getting better in C6 land.
Andy G.
Modified air box, 33-2136 K&N's cut covers flush with filters.
Kooks long tube headers and cats, (no codes)
Magnaflows cat back system
This is what Ron did in terms of tunning:
Set rev limiter to 6850 rpm
added 2 degrees across the board
Limited retard to 2 degrees at higher temps above 200.
trimmed fuel maps.
No cags or fans yet. This is the first program, it's very conserative.
Car runs great! It pulls hard to 6800! Next, I'm putting Jessel 1.8 rockers on. This will bump my cam lift to .556. Also Ron did alot of things that I can't post. Ron also told me that TQ management is not an issue in 6 speeds. I agree because all of my dyno pulls at both magnaflow and superior automotive, the torque line had no dips in them. They were flat and smooth. He did say that it is an issue in autos. Anyway, I'm happy, cars happy. Things are getting better in C6 land.
Andy G.
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Originally Posted by jimman
Finally an honest tuner.
Yeah, ok.
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Aren't these two statements in agreement, not disagreement?
Andy I know Ron is wrong. The Torque management will not effect power on the dyno with a 6spd.
Ron also told me that TQ management is not an issue in 6 speeds.
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Originally Posted by 4DCYKEY
Aren't these two statements in agreement, not disagreement?But what I don't understand is how TQ management would be applied in an MN6. Does the PCM know when you push in the clutch and shift at or near redline and pull timing at that instant? I'm not sure if that could be done. This is not as simple as a computer that controls upshifts in a car with an automatic transmission. This also does not explain how some members ran 12.5's in MN6 equipped C6's while others claim that TQ management limits their MN6 cars to 13 second quarters