Dead battery exit
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Racer
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From: Boulder City NV
Dead battery exit
Just wondering how you could exit the car if the battery died while you were in it? I know about the emergancy pull, but how would the window lower without a battery? Thanks 
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From: Seguin Texas
Just a thought as I don't really see an occasion where the battery would go dead with me in the car, BUT if it did, I plan to unlatch the roof panel before I pull the emergency door release. Reason: the windows are indexed into slots in the rubber weather seal in the roof so by unlatching the roof and pushing it up slightly as I pull the door release I would not put stress on the window assemply. My .02 worth .
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From: South Lyon Michigan
So let me see if I understand what you guys are saying: if you get into a car accident and the battery cable is ripped (hence no electric power) you can't get out of the car and much more important if the car was on fire you will have a very hard time getting out of the car? I hope someone can clarify this for me because other than breaking a window which is hard to pull someone out, how would someone open the door to pull you out of a burning wreck?
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From: Offical CFOT MustangChick Texas
Originally Posted by jp2002ls1
So let me see if I understand what you guys are saying: if you get into a car accident and the battery cable is ripped (hence no electric power) you can't get out of the car and much more important if the car was on fire you will have a very hard time getting out of the car?
Originally Posted by jp2002ls1
I hope someone can clarify this for me because other than breaking a window which is hard to pull someone out, how would someone open the door to pull you out of a burning wreck?
just another "over reaction" to the C6's features.
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Originally Posted by Violet
no. no one said you can't get out of the car. you pull the emergency door release and it opens. i don't recall reading anyone saying you would have a "very hard time" getting out, either. you pull the emergency release and get out. they window indexing thing isn't going to keep the door from opening. someone just mentioned it because, as is typical of vette owners, they tend to by **** about their cars.
guess they wouldn't. of course, let's see.. other than breaking a window which is hard to pull someone out, how would someone open the door of a 1985 Z51 equipped C4 Corvette to pull you out of a burning wreck if the door was locked? no difference. the door isn't able to be opened from the outside.
just another "over reaction" to the C6's features.
guess they wouldn't. of course, let's see.. other than breaking a window which is hard to pull someone out, how would someone open the door of a 1985 Z51 equipped C4 Corvette to pull you out of a burning wreck if the door was locked? no difference. the door isn't able to be opened from the outside.
just another "over reaction" to the C6's features.
, the only problem is....In today's society, I can see the following happening:
Car wrecks and gas is leaking out causing a potintial for fire. I run over to help the poor guy and break his window to get him out. A week later, I recieve court papers. The guy is sueing me for a replacement window
This is why, more often then not, I try to get help, but don't help myself. Too risky anymore.
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Originally Posted by Violet
guess they wouldn't. of course, let's see.. other than breaking a window which is hard to pull someone out, how would someone open the door of a 1985 Z51 equipped C4 Corvette to pull you out of a burning wreck if the door was locked? no difference. the door isn't able to be opened from the outside.
just another "over reaction" to the C6's features.
just another "over reaction" to the C6's features.
The C6, just like pretty much every other car, is locked as far as people outside are concerned. You're supposed to lock your doors when the vehicle is in motion anyway, to help prevent them from popping open during an accident. And the C6, just like pretty much every other car, has a physical release for the door on the inside in case of emergency.
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Originally Posted by Violet
if you and i agree once more, Scissors, i'll be pretty convinced the apocalypse is impending.. and that it was fortold in one of Nostradamus' quatrains.
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From: Offical CFOT MustangChick Texas
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Originally Posted by Scissors
It's fun over here. We know how to party. 
Seriously though, I can see some potential for problems in rare cases. Breaking a window is nothing and you'd have to do that anyway if someone were unconscious in a burning late model car because they doors are all locked. The only problem I can think of is that you've got some fat **** in there that you can't pull through the window and now you just broke the window on a burning car, you look in and reach for a manual door release handle to open the door and get them out, but you are not familiar with the C6, you don't know where the manual release is, and the little button doesn't work because the elecrical system/battery was hosed in the crash. Yeah, in that instance, I could see a potential for more trouble than you'd have in a "normal" car with "normal" door handles. You very well may burn up in the car or your rescuer may have to give up before they figure out that there is a manual release lever all the way down on the floor.
Mike
Last edited by mikeyc6; Mar 4, 2005 at 06:43 PM.
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Originally Posted by Z064life
, the only problem is....In today's society, I can see the following happening:
Car wrecks and gas is leaking out causing a potintial for fire. I run over to help the poor guy and break his window to get him out. A week later, I recieve court papers. The guy is sueing me for a replacement window
This is why, more often then not, I try to get help, but don't help myself. Too risky anymore.
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
Nice hat! Now if you were wearing that hat when you got into an accident and your car were upside down in a ditch and on fire, would your hat confuse the paramedics? Would they still pull you from the burning vehicle?
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From: Houston TX
Originally Posted by slowtrak
If you see me out there in my LMB and it is on fire and I am in it unconscious, you have my permission to break my window and pull me out . I hold you harmless !
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Not locked in
Gentleman and Ladies, the window only goes into the weatherstrip about 7mm. When you pull the emergency handle the door lock is released and the door springs open a little, It takes very little effort to push the door past the weatherstrip. WHen you store yours this winter and you pull the battery try it
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From: Menifee (I.E.) CA
I take it none of you have ever tried to break a side window on a car...because you can't. That's why they have a emergency door release in the 'vette.
Unless you have something heavy and pointed (i.e. pick head axe), or the glass is already damaged, that's the only way you're going to get in or out.
We use a spring loaded punch to do it. Snap it in the corner and it drops in a second. About a year ago I watched a SFX expert take a small piece of the glass part of a spark plug and lightly throw it against a side window of a car they were going to blow up.
The window completely shattered and fell into a thousand pieces, like it's supposed to do. The spark plug glass must have the exact hardness to do that, I guess.
So, carry around a spark plug with you if you're paranoid about being locked in because your shoes, head or fists ain't gonna do it!!!
Unless you have something heavy and pointed (i.e. pick head axe), or the glass is already damaged, that's the only way you're going to get in or out.
We use a spring loaded punch to do it. Snap it in the corner and it drops in a second. About a year ago I watched a SFX expert take a small piece of the glass part of a spark plug and lightly throw it against a side window of a car they were going to blow up.
The window completely shattered and fell into a thousand pieces, like it's supposed to do. The spark plug glass must have the exact hardness to do that, I guess.
So, carry around a spark plug with you if you're paranoid about being locked in because your shoes, head or fists ain't gonna do it!!!
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
Seriously though, I can see some potential for problems in rare cases. Breaking a window is nothing and you'd have to do that anyway if someone were unconscious in a burning late model car because they doors are all locked. The only problem I can think of is that you've got some fat **** in there that you can't pull through the window and now you just broke the window on a burning car, you look in and reach for a manual door release handle to open the door and get them out, but you are not familiar with the C6, you don't know where the manual release is, and the little button doesn't work because the elecrical system/battery was hosed in the crash. Yeah, in that instance, I could see a potential for more trouble than you'd have in a "normal" car with "normal" door handles. You very well may burn up in the car or your rescuer may have to give up before they figure out that there is a manual release lever all the way down on the floor.
Mike
Mike
