FWIW, I just got an email from Mike Vendetto at callawaycars.com and it's copied below.

He has a couple of attachments in a TIF format that I can't read.

Draw your own conclusions!!!

Bob
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
May 17, 2005
For immediate release:

This statement is in response to recent telephone calls and e-mails
from C6 Honker Air Induction Systems customers who were concerned with
Callaway?s performance claims. Their questions were triggered by
Halltech?s recent findings with their Stinger system. Halltech has
stated that PCM calibration must be performed when modifying the C6?s
air intake system to increase flow. Understandably, Callaway customers
have expressed concern regarding the Honker?s performance.

We at Callaway have not experienced the problems described by Halltech
duringEdit beta sites, but no PCM recalibration was ever performed during
Honker testing and development. Our chassis dynamometer test results
and dragstrip testing time slips are included below to support the
power and torque claims. As of today, over 10,000 miles have been
accumulated on our C6 using the Honker prototype system shown below
without any problems whatsoever.

Jeopardizing Callaway?s reputation by exaggerating product performance
is simply not consistent with our corporate philosophy. Today, Corvette
enthusiasts test their modifications on chassis dynos, and participate
in autocross, drag racing, and road racing. It would be futile to
attempt any sort of deception.

It has also been suggested that the C6 Honker has not been released yet
because it will not perform without PCM calibration. This is not true.
Callaway has had delayed shipping in order to make adjustments in the
manufacturing of the main duct. The shape of the main duct is critical
to air flow quality and the ducts molded so far have had minor
differences from the original design. Before Callaway will release this
product, it must be configured exactly to our design specifications to
generate the target performance. The release date for Honker C6 is
scheduled for Friday, May 20.



Download Attachment: pastedGraphic1.tiff




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Download Attachment: pastedGraphic2.tiff

Timeslips/10-29-2004/Lebanon Valley Dragway/A-B Testing:
1. Completely stock w/OEM intake system ? 12.557 sec @ 112.98 mph (GM
advertises 12.6 sec)
2. Completely stock except for Honker C6 Air Induction ? 12.321 sec @
114.53 mph



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Download Attachment: pastedGraphic3.tiff

 

Thanks, beezeye. Good info. Callaway is a very reputable company. I will keep my eye on the Honker.

BTW - Good to meet you in Orlando. Beautiful car!

 

Hi Dave

Yes, nice to meet you and Eric in Orlando. And your Machine Silver was my wife's first choice!

I've got a Honker on order. I haven't cancelled yet, and probably won't (I guess I don't have much time if I don't want it!!).

Best, Bob

 

Thank you for posting this!

As I have said before, Callaway Cars delay in shipping is because they want the product ot be ABSOLUTELY 110% PERFECT for YOU, the customer

Like ALL of their products, they do what they are supposed to do, when called upon, each time No B.S.

Again, Thanks

 

I wonder how firm that date is? They've been saying "it'll be ready in 2 weeks" since February and have inched the date forward every few days since the "official" release estimate of April 27 posted on their web site a month ago. I hope they get their supplier issues resolved soon because I'd sure love to see this thing in some independent tests. I got tired of waiting and got the Vortex Rammer myself, but if/when the Honker hits the streets, it looks like it will be the thang as far as intakes go. Great price point too!



Mike

 

 

We at Callaway have been receiving e-mails and phone calls from concerned Honker C6 customers referring to statements published by Halltech indicating that C6 intake systems can't be modified. Halltech maintains that some form of calibration work is necessary to accommodate increased airflow from intake system changes.

We haven't encountered this issue. The following link will take you to a copy of the e-mail that we've sent to Honker C6 customers:

http://www.callawaycars.com/callaway...ease-51705.htm

We are grateful to our loyal Honker C6 customers for their patience. As the link explains, we wish to manufacture the production Honkers identical to our prototypes before we ship the first part.
Thanks.

 

Hey Mike :

 

Any hp and torque numbers (rw) available? Can't read thumbnails. Website says 15 hp?

 

From the Callaway Test & Development C6 (Carlisle Callaway C6 project) with 10,000+ miles of testing done

Hope this helps

 

Callaway has a good reputation going back many years so I would tend to take them at their word. I looked at their pic. Am I correct in that the shroud is cut (which is not a problem for me) and it breathes "cold air" from the outside?

 

Need-for-speed, yes - the shroud does get cut for the installation to grab the cold air from beneath

I hope this helps -

Here is another pic. of the C6 Honker installed

 

Interesting. That graph looks very much like the before/after graph for my Vortex Rammer. Looks like they are both getting about 12 RWHP over stock. From this graph and my own dyno graphs, it appears that 12 RWHP might be about the max gain possible with an aftermarket intake... at least without developing a real ram air design which these shroud-cut-through designs certainly are not.

Mike

 

I don't know why some people don't understand that Jim Hall's problem with his intake is with the MAF location and the fact that he removed the screen. Anybody who has been working on GMs at all since about 1993 can tell you that these cars don't like turbulant air through the MAF.

There's no magic to Corvettes. They don't defy the laws of physics. They function just like any other car. Make the intake more efficient and the car will make more power. Freak the MAF out with tubulent airflow and stuff happens like happened to Jim Hall.

-Chris

 

100% correct

 

 

Thanks That's a good pic. I like. I had a Haltech TRIC on my C5 and it definitely worked. My car dyno'd at 330 HP / 342 TQ on MTI's dyno with nothing other than the TRIC, throttle body bypass, and Corsa Touring. 1/4 mile before was 13.3 @ 108 mph,. after 12.918 @111.25 (albeit 6 mos later). I believe there was more HP to be gained w/ the intake on C5 because the OEM intake was more restrictive than C6. +12 HP sounds about right for the C6. What I didn't like on the old TRIC was that the filter was so close to the ground. I was worried about water ingestion. With this Callaway, you get the cold air, but it's intake is much higher. I like that.

[QUOTE=Chrisbequick]I don't know why some people don't understand that Jim Hall's problem with his intake is with the MAF location and the fact that he removed the screen. Anybody who has been working on GMs at all since about 1993 can tell you that these cars don't like turbulant air through the MAF.

Chris, I beleive you may be correct about Hall's C6 design. However, with the TRIC on my C5, I did use Jim's nylon MAF ends and I removed the OEM screen on the MAF and it ran very well. But the TRIC had that long straight tube design that (I think) straightened out the air flow.


Based on my C5 experiences, I believe you will find that most cold air intakes produce about the same, as long as the basic design is not FUBAR'd. With C5, Jason at MTI (very reputable tuner) told us that he dyno'd every C5 cat back system out there and they all produced a gain of 8HP +/- meaning the low hanging fruit is basically the same for any given mod as long as it's basic design is good. (I still thank aftermarket MAFs are )

 

The first production C6 Honker has been sent out to a customer and the first C6 Callaway SuperNatural Corvette is scheduled for delivery tomorrow (wearing the production C6 Honker)

Good news for all that have been waiting!

 

Well, I guess I'll be getting mine fairly soon then. I ordered a couple months ago and was expecting them to ship on April 27th.

After the HallTech problems I was concerned and thinking about canceling the order. But I'm sticking with them.

I think Callaway is just like Jim Hall - no company can afford to release something that they can't stand behind. Jim's intake wasn't working out so he pulled it from the market, and I am positive that Callaway wouldn't want their reputation tarnished and wouldn't release the Honker if it wasn't up to their standards.

Anyway, I'm gonna give it a try and I'm looking forward to getting on my car.

Bob

 

You need to check out your facts about Jim Halls first.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...3&forum_id=101