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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Hall
Have you purchased an exhaust system for your C6 yet?

I did not do this dyno. A customer purchased the C6 Stinger and drove to a local dyno some 45 miles away, and paid $100 for the dyno sesssion. He simply compared the results with his first dyno the week before he installed our C6 Stinger SSM.

The beauty of his results are that no programming needed to be performed, and we installed the system in 5 minutes.

The dyno numbers were his results now ours. His dyno shows 15.5 RWHP gain at 6600 over stock.

The dyno actually is not the best tool for any C6 aftermarket part. We have gone from a low of 337 RWHP bone stock, to a high of 359 RWHP with our C6 Stinger, and our Stinger Program.

Our Stinger takes 5 minutes to install, with no cutting, no trimming, and fits in the stock location of the C6 where the filter belongs on this car. Call me and I'll explain why.

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The Stinger has 5 times more filtration surface area compared to stock.

5 minute Installation: http://www.corvettec5.com/C6_Stinger...structions.pdf
Does it Come In YELLOW??
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by YellowVette22
Does it Come In YELLOW??
No, sorry. We have all of our Stingers in stock now. All backorders have been shipped. (Pick-Up Tomorrow)

LG Motorsports just picked up 8 RWHP with our C6 Stinger SSM. They told me in an email that it was a very hot humid night, and they expect to see more on a better day.

Heat kills the C6 on the dyno, but the numbers are close to what we got on Jim Booth's car. 11.3 RWHP.

Don't forget, this is without programming, and installs in less than 5 minutes.

We'll have a video install soon.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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PRICE,PLEASE
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mako5
PRICE,PLEASE
Check with our distributor that posted this thread.

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CAU-LLC
Halltech is Back and Kicking A!

He has moved things around a little and I'm proof it works. I actually think I lost a little when I put on the Magnaflows but didn't get a chance to Dyno before and after! They sure sound nice and I was happy before the Stinger, but now I'M SOLD! They are a great combination!

I'm sure if you check his site he will be posting later tonight! He had a bigger smile on his face than I did at the Dyno!

He is a great guy, and wasn't going to go ahead if he couldn't prove a good enough increase.

He has it now! I'm sure after they get on a few more C-6's they will be on back order.

Jim Booth
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Is there any chance of Hydralock with this system. I have heared horror stories about intake systems sucking up water off the road. I had one of those street sweepers once and bent two rods, busted 1 piston. Swore I would never use an after market air box again. The crud it sucked up was a pain in the floor pan allso.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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Now worries, its not a bottom feeder nor a CAI.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by crabman
Now worries, its not a bottom feeder nor a CAI.
I was driving home from a car show on sunday and man did it start raining buckets. I thought the wiper blades were going to fly off. Had to stop under an over pass with a couple of harley riders. When I made it home my wash bucket had about 4 inches of fresh water in it.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Pacific NW here. We have been known to have rain now and then. This is the main reason I stayed away from the honker and vortex. I also want some induction sound and I rode in a car with the vortex and wasnt sure if I could hear it or not. Definately didnt add much at any rate. Its good that we have some choices now.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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That's a good question about the potential for water to get into the filter. It isn't a bottom feeder, but how 'safe' is the hood in terms of sealing water out? The chevy box has a big plastic cover over it to protect it, does that mean water can easily get into the engine compartment through the edges?

Basically is this something I have to worry about even when washing my car? .
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by elmagoo
That's a good question about the potential for water to get into the filter. It isn't a bottom feeder, but how 'safe' is the hood in terms of sealing water out? The chevy box has a big plastic cover over it to protect it, does that mean water can easily get into the engine compartment through the edges?

Basically is this something I have to worry about even when washing my car? .
The hood seal is perfect on the C6. We've driven through storms and it seals well. The radiator baffle however lets some water into the engine compartment on the stock C6 due to the hurricane forces generated by the new open mouth of the C6.

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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by elmagoo
That's a good question about the potential for water to get into the filter. It isn't a bottom feeder, but how 'safe' is the hood in terms of sealing water out? The chevy box has a big plastic cover over it to protect it, does that mean water can easily get into the engine compartment through the edges?

Basically is this something I have to worry about even when washing my car? .
No, the amount of water that gets into the engine compartment, where the Stinger SSM filter resides could not present a problem any more than the stock setup.

I drove through a rainstorm with the stock setup doing 50 mph for about 10 minutes, got home and checked out the engine compartment. Some water here and there, since it is not sealed from the incoming air.

Our system is just as safe as stock, in fact the filtration area is 253 sq. inches vs. 90 for stock (65 if you don't count the stainless mesh). 5 times the surface area vs. stock.
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Hall
Check with our distributor that posted this thread.

Jim
Just went to his website..................He has NO C6 items listed, some distributor Jim....................IF he really wants to sell your product, he better put a link to it and at least let us ORDER it.................
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Sorry VNAMVET, We have been up to our you know what with Shows (COTI & Bloomington), trying to get our current C6 items licensed, and trying to developing even more C6 items. We have not had time to get Halltech, nor a few other items, on our site yet.

As you most likely saw we make almost all of the items on our site. Except for the relationship with Halltech and a few others like Sal Zaino we do not carry many other vendors’ items. We do have in stock the full line of Halltech items for the 97-04 C5 & C6. We realize it is hard to sell our inventory if the items that we inventory are not on our site, but that is our problem. We will do a complete revamp when we get our GM approval for our current C6 items which we expect in a few weeks.

I can tell you, as I did people at Bloomington where we had Jim's systems, the Halltech System is well worth the money. I want to state that I Paid for my system and paid for the Dyno's! I don't owe anything to Halltech but I am sold on their product. If you are close to Wisconsin, I would also recommend the program upgrade for the C6 Jim has put together!

You can call us at 262-783-4228 if you are interested!

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Originally Posted by Chrisbequick
Thanks for the support, Derek. Although I sincerely doubt I'll get any credit as being the person that originally brought this to Jim Hall's attention, and for being a bit of a lone wolf for being the only guy that stood up and told Jim he was doing it wrong, I am glad to see that he corrected the problem and isn't misleading people into believing that bolt-on intakes hurt performance anymore.

C6ers, mod away!

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Chris, read the original discussion when it occurred and it sure sounded like you diagnosed the problem to me!
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Old Jul 3, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Chris, read the original discussion when it occurred and it sure sounded like you diagnosed the problem to me!
Just for informational updates. The exact system used at first was not really the culprit. The MAF location, as I said then, and will say again now does not make much difference.

How can I say that? I took the exact same C6 Stinger SSM system (different color) including the C6 MAF I had used, and installed it on an 03 Z06. Now if Chris was right, then the same outcome would occur.

I did program his car as well, as you can see by the straightline a/f ratio.

Here is the dyno and pictures:






The problem with the C6 is the ECM countermeasures which foil most attempts to do before and after dynos, due to heat generated cat overtemp protection fuel enrichment, and the timing tables jumping into the Low Octane tables on the dyno.

Positioning the MAF at the rear has its advantages, since we were able to see the benefit without programming Jim's car, and it turned into an easier installation, since we did not have to install the extra MAF wire harness. I have $1200 worth of MAF wire extentions if anyone is interested.

Lou Gigliotti is running our C6 Stinger SSM on his race car. I'm told they saw another 10 RWHP on their 488 RWHP C6 with our Stinger. They are a supporting vendor here and have C6 Stinger SSMs in stock.

Jim

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Originally Posted by VNAMVET
Just went to his website..................He has NO C6 items listed, some distributor Jim....................IF he really wants to sell your product, he better put a link to it and at least let us ORDER it.................
We just set them up a few weeks ago, and they stock everything. Give them a call.

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Very long download time. Stock C6 uninstall and C6 Stinger SSM install video by Halltech.
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Great video, Thanks Jim
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Two days till I get mine + a tune!!!


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Originally Posted by MarineC6
It may be a worry. I toyed with the filter right side up and upside down to see if it'd make any difference at possibly avoiding water. I washed my car yesterday but before doing so, I placed a towel over the filter to get an idea of how much water would seep thru the rubber lip at the base of the hood. The result is surprising. When I get more time, I will post something. For now, before I wash my car, I'll just cover the filter with a plastic bag.
Thanks for this insight. This is really important news to me. My Stinger arrives in a few days and I hadn't considered covering it with a plastic bag but will no. Marinec6: "surprising"- how much water, a lot ? If so, maybe we should post a sticky or send something to Jim Hall pointing out this easy fix- he suggested placing the old shroud over the filter but that is too much hassle to carry in the car- if the plastic bag thing works well that might be the best way to go.
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