C6 Oil Change
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From: Huntington Beach Ca 1 out of 4 Americans are mentally unstable, so if 3 of your friends are OK . . . .
St. Jude Donor '05
Change: your preference or use the DIC. I'm probably going to be in the 5K range.
Mobil 1 5/30W.
5.5 Quarts.
Oil filter AC Delco PF 46 I believe (used to be PF 44, but no longer that #)
Need to change your filter every time you change the oil.
Mobil 1 5/30W.
5.5 Quarts.
Oil filter AC Delco PF 46 I believe (used to be PF 44, but no longer that #)
Need to change your filter every time you change the oil.
Drifting
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From: laguna niguel ca
It's all personal preference.
I dump my oil evey 2500-3000 miles. I don't care what the DIC says.
I use 10-30 mobil
I use a PUREONE FILTER 25288, it's about 1 inch longer, with syn media.
I get them at Pep Boys. $5.00 Either that or K&N's, or Mobil one's filter.
Again it's all personal preference.
Andy G.
I use 10-30 mobil
I use a PUREONE FILTER 25288, it's about 1 inch longer, with syn media.
I get them at Pep Boys. $5.00 Either that or K&N's, or Mobil one's filter.
Again it's all personal preference.
Andy G.
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St. Jude Donor '21-'22-'23-'24
All of this information is in the owner's manual. Pg. 5-94 tells you that 5.5 qts of oil are required. Pg. 6-4 tells you to change the filter when you change the oil. Pg. 6-11 tells you what kind of oil to use.
RTFM.
RTFM.
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From: Ft. Liquordale Florida
Originally Posted by SilverCoupe
All of this information is in the owner's manual. Pg. 5-94 tells you that 5.5 qts of oil are required. Pg. 6-4 tells you to change the filter when you change the oil. Pg. 6-11 tells you what kind of oil to use.
RTFM.
RTFM.
I'm using Castrol Syntec 10/30 & K&N Filter.
A 1 inch longer filter would project down a little further than I'd like personally. The "nut" on the K&N projects down below the lowest point of the engine assy. 1 inch lower than that would put the filter "in harms way" IMHO...
Rick
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From: Tobacco Road NC
Originally Posted by spectra6.0
I have the Z-51 manual. Will my oil last longer because of the engine oil cooler? If so, how much longer?
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From: Seminole Florida
Was told by local dealer $60.00 for oil change. Ended up being $83.00. They said the new C6 takes 7 quarts, and mobile synthetic went up. Is this true? Should I wait every 5,000 miles, or more?
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Thats about right, its 70 here and I know most guys running synthetic are paying a premium for it. Bust just think of it like premium gas, your engine will thank you for it and you get the piece of mind
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Originally Posted by lambolarry
Was told by local dealer $60.00 for oil change. Ended up being $83.00. They said the new C6 takes 7 quarts, and mobile synthetic went up. Is this true? Should I wait every 5,000 miles, or more?
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From: San Carlos CA
Originally Posted by shopdog
If they said 7 quarts, they are either stupid or liars. In either case, you don't want them working on your car. Mobil 1 is $19.95 for a 5 quart jug at Walmart, every day price (you'll need half of another quart to finish the change, so total oil cost should be around $22). Filter $5. So everything over $27 is labor. It takes about 10 minutes to change the oil and filter in my driveway, probably a bit quicker on a lift, so labor should be no more than $10 based on a $50 an hour shop rate. That means everything over $37 is stealer gouge.
The best way to control oil change costs (other than DIY) is to buy your own oil and filter and bring them to your favorite service spot and ensure that they won't charge more than $20 for labor.
Ira
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From: Vallejo California
Originally Posted by shopdog
If they said 7 quarts, they are either stupid or liars. In either case, you don't want them working on your car. Mobil 1 is $19.95 for a 5 quart jug at Walmart, every day price (you'll need half of another quart to finish the change, so total oil cost should be around $22). Filter $5. So everything over $27 is labor. It takes about 10 minutes to change the oil and filter in my driveway, probably a bit quicker on a lift, so labor should be no more than $10 based on a $50 an hour shop rate. That means everything over $37 is stealer gouge.
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From: Vallejo California
Originally Posted by SickRick
AMEN Brother...
I'm using Castrol Syntec 10/30 & K&N Filter.
A 1 inch longer filter would project down a little further than I'd like personally. The "nut" on the K&N projects down below the lowest point of the engine assy. 1 inch lower than that would put the filter "in harms way" IMHO...
Rick
I'm using Castrol Syntec 10/30 & K&N Filter.
A 1 inch longer filter would project down a little further than I'd like personally. The "nut" on the K&N projects down below the lowest point of the engine assy. 1 inch lower than that would put the filter "in harms way" IMHO...
Rick
We recently received this e-mail from Mike McQuoid, at Norman Gale Pontiac GMC, Cedar Knolls, NJ:
“In the March 2005 issue of TechLink, there is a list of motor oils approved by GM for use in gasoline engines. I'm curious why so many “full synthetic” oils are listed in the “non-synthetic” list and not in the synthetic list.”
Here’s the answer from GM Powertrain:
“GM4718M is General Motors' High Performance engine oil specification. Oils which meet GM4718M tend to be made from synthetic base stocks, so it is often referred to as a "synthetic" specification.
“However, not all oils, synthetic or otherwise, are capable of meeting the stringent requirements of GM4718M. Only the oils listed on the GM4718M Registered Products sheet have proven their performance to the specification.”
- Thanks to Matt Snider, GM Powertrain
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From: Ft. Liquordale Florida
Originally Posted by dharr2q
The manual is very specific as to the type of oil to use in the C6. Castrol Syntec is not an approved oil. Furthermore, the manual recommends 5/30 oil. The following is from the GM TechLink web site:
We recently received this e-mail from Mike McQuoid, at Norman Gale Pontiac GMC, Cedar Knolls, NJ:
“In the March 2005 issue of TechLink, there is a list of motor oils approved by GM for use in gasoline engines. I'm curious why so many “full synthetic” oils are listed in the “non-synthetic” list and not in the synthetic list.”
Here’s the answer from GM Powertrain:
“GM4718M is General Motors' High Performance engine oil specification. Oils which meet GM4718M tend to be made from synthetic base stocks, so it is often referred to as a "synthetic" specification.
“However, not all oils, synthetic or otherwise, are capable of meeting the stringent requirements of GM4718M. Only the oils listed on the GM4718M Registered Products sheet have proven their performance to the specification.”
- Thanks to Matt Snider, GM Powertrain
We recently received this e-mail from Mike McQuoid, at Norman Gale Pontiac GMC, Cedar Knolls, NJ:
“In the March 2005 issue of TechLink, there is a list of motor oils approved by GM for use in gasoline engines. I'm curious why so many “full synthetic” oils are listed in the “non-synthetic” list and not in the synthetic list.”
Here’s the answer from GM Powertrain:
“GM4718M is General Motors' High Performance engine oil specification. Oils which meet GM4718M tend to be made from synthetic base stocks, so it is often referred to as a "synthetic" specification.
“However, not all oils, synthetic or otherwise, are capable of meeting the stringent requirements of GM4718M. Only the oils listed on the GM4718M Registered Products sheet have proven their performance to the specification.”
- Thanks to Matt Snider, GM Powertrain
Don't think for a minute that I would jeopardize the life of my engine by using oil of a less-than-premium quality, and even though my typing suckz, I DO have the right viscosity in my car...
And GM also lists Syntec on thier 4718 list - so, you stand CORRECTED... http://www.gmtechlink.com/images/iss...ds/synthgd.pdf
But, thanks for calling my error to my attention. I STILL wonder just how much Mobil Oil gave GM to have them stick those cute little Mobil One oil filler covers on every car...
Rick
Last edited by SickRick; Jun 16, 2005 at 02:33 AM.
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The only problem with doing it yourself is that won't they try to void the warranty
Originally Posted by iblumberg
Agreed, although it does take me more than 10 minutes when I add up the time to get out the ramps, drive up the ramps, drive off the ramps, put away the ramps, and of course drive to the recycling center and dump the old oil and filter. On the other hand, the dealer does not have to do any of this stuff.
The best way to control oil change costs (other than DIY) is to buy your own oil and filter and bring them to your favorite service spot and ensure that they won't charge more than $20 for labor.
Ira
The best way to control oil change costs (other than DIY) is to buy your own oil and filter and bring them to your favorite service spot and ensure that they won't charge more than $20 for labor.
Ira
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From: Seminole Florida
You guys are correct on the owners manual pg 5-94, 5.5 quarts, but it shows on my invoice from the dealer, they put 7 quarts of oil in. I guess I'll ask the mechanic when I see him. They damaged my C6, put the nose on the curb and had to order a part for it.
Larry
Larry