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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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Is anyone having problems enetring a highway with the RPM's up around 5000 and have 3rd gear lock you out?

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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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Try this:

Avoid guiding the shifter into third. Place your palm only (don't wrap your fingers) on the front of the shifter. Once you are ready to shift, gently shove the shifter straight forward with just your palm. The shifter will find third for you and go into gear every time.

Let me know how this works for you
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by babymaker
Try this:

Avoid guiding the shifter into third. Place your palm only (don't wrap your fingers) on the front of the shifter. Once you are ready to shift, gently shove the shifter straight forward with just your palm. The shifter will find third for you and go into gear every time.

Let me know how this works for you
I agree. My wife was having a similar problem because she was always trying to guide the shifter into the proper gear with a firm grasp on the shifter ****..

In the city, I always do a 1st to 3rd shift, rather than the 1st to 4th. If you just go from 1st into neutral, loosen your grip on the shifter, the shifter automatically centers itself in neutal in the 3rd to 4th gear plane.

Once in neutral in the 3rd to 4th gear plane, regrasp the shifter and gently push it forward into 3rd. When I regrasp the shifter and make my shift, I use only two fingers rather than a gorilla grip. You can practice this while the car is standing still with the engine off.

If you drive on the track this is a sure way to avoid missing a shift in the confusion of the moment. Just remember that if the shift lever is put in the neutral position it automatically centers itself in the proper plane for an upshift and a slight push forward or backward gets you into 3rd or 4th.
If this does not work you probably have some kind of mechanical problem.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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Is anyone having problems enetring a highway with the RPM's up around 5000 and have 3rd gear lock you out?

Please help

Thank you,


Brickman198
Well when you are entering a highway and you need to gain speed how would you handle that, shiftinh 1st is fine, second is fine and whem you g ofor third it locks you out, seems like a problem others are experiencing.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickman198
Well when you are entering a highway and you need to gain speed how would you handle that, shiftinh 1st is fine, second is fine and whem you g ofor third it locks you out, seems like a problem others are experiencing.
Shifting from 1st to 2nd is all in the same horizontal plane (should be easy), but going to 3rd puts you in a different plane. If you muscle the shift lever over to 3rd gear there is a chance that you hit the gate instead of going cleanly into gear. This is particularily true if you are attempting to accelerate hard and are hurrying the shift.

I suggest that you try the following procedure. As you are going from 2nd to 3rd, pause in neutral and let go of the shift lever while in neutral (I mean take your hand off the ****), the shift lever will automatically center itself on the 3rd to 4th gear plane, then reapply your hand and push the shift lever forward. If that does not work you have some kind of mechanical problem.

You don't say whether or not your car is new, if it is, it takes a bit of time for the shifting to smooth out. In my case the shifts are much smoother now than a few months ago when we got the car.

I don't recall any problems on this forum with the 2nd to 3rd shift. Most of the problems are getting the shifter into 1st gear, or getting a smooth clean start from a standstill, or having your clutch pedal stick to the floor.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickman198
Well when you are entering a highway and you need to gain speed how would you handle that, shiftinh 1st is fine, second is fine and whem you g ofor third it locks you out, seems like a problem others are experiencing.
I have been having that problem but only when trying to shift fast. Initially I was upset about it as I never had this problem on the two other manual transmission cars I owned in the past. I learned to have my elbow tilted a little closer to me and, as others have said, have a more relaxed grip on the shifter and I stopped having the problem.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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DANNOV is correct. The shifter will self align for the up-shift. A heavy hand will try to force it past normal alignment. Personal opinion is that the springs could have been a little stronger to provide more guidance. Once you get used to it, it becomes second nature.
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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With the comments above. If you try and "muscle" the 2nd to 3rd, it will give you a hard time. If you "pop" it up into neutral, then push forward, it goes right in.

I can imagine the problem you're having with this, I thought the same thing (that I could just JAM the gears from shift-2-shift). This is the first American manual I've owned in a LONG TIME (come to think of it, the ONLY American manual I've EVER owned).

If you think it's gonna shift like your Porsche or Lexus, you WILL be disappointed. My long-time Corvette-owner buddies tell me it shifts - like a CORVETTE. I dunno if that's good or bad, but I love the car, so who am I to complain.

Dannov - I do a 2nd to 4th shift most often, as I'm jamming the 1st to 2nd, and by the time I reach shift point in 2nd, it's time to "lift off" anyway. 2nd hi-rev shift is far closer to a "normal" 4th shift than 1st to 3rd is (though they're probably similar). I get the "advantage" of a fast launch & fast shift from 1st to 2nd, then "mellow out" at cruising speed in 4th...

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Unless there is something mechanically wrong, most problems that I've seen shifting from 2-3 come from people trying to zig-zag the shifter up, then right in the middle, then up. If you just shove it in a straight line with one quick motion, there shouldn't be an issue, again, unless there is a mechanical problem.

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