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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Anyone have any order info on how to get one? I realized I had a problem after I moved the stack of original rims away from the C6 and that was how it was retaining the old pressure values and working for a while. Now its got an overprotective active handling setting running that wont let me exceed .7g's.
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Here is the contact info. You have to call them. They didn't answer email. $200 shipped CorvetteForum price.

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Email: sholloway@bartecusa.com
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
Anyone have any order info on how to get one? I realized I had a problem after I moved the stack of original rims away from the C6 and that was how it was retaining the old pressure values and working for a while. Now its got an overprotective active handling setting running that wont let me exceed .7g's.
What is the VIN number range of your C6? I have a mid 18K vin and haven't seen this problem and I did a 300 miles trip with unregistered sensors. I was able to drive about 75 miles before I got the first TPM failure warning which DIC reset cleared up. I didn't notice any throttle restraints and didn't have any active handling warnings but I may not have really hit a corner hard enough to make it happen?

I assume you go into a corner hard and load up the suspension and the active handling light comes on? Are there any warnings about the TPM malfuctioning at the same time? If you turn the ignition on and off does it change anything?

It would be nice if someone in the GM world would chime in and tell us how the system is really supposed to work.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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What is the VIN number range of your C6? I have a mid 18K vin and haven't seen this problem and I did a 300 miles trip with unregistered sensors. I was able to drive about 75 miles before I got the first TPM failure warning which DIC reset cleared up. I didn't notice any throttle restraints and didn't have any active handling warnings but I may not have really hit a corner hard enough to make it happen?

I assume you go into a corner hard and load up the suspension and the active handling light comes on? Are there any warnings about the TPM malfuctioning at the same time? If you turn the ignition on and off does it change anything?

It would be nice if someone in the GM world would chime in and tell us how the system is really supposed to work.
You didnt clear the condition you only cleared the display. If you are low on fuel and it gives you a warning you can reset the message by that button but it didnt fill your tank.

I never got any warnings either. It was when I took my car to go do some serious handling tests that I found the active handling is working differently and not allowing the car to go past .7g turns.

I know a lot of people think if there is no warning or if there are no lights that the system is working properly but it isn't the same as when the sensors are working. The car thinks there are 4 flats.

Another thing is what you did with the car's original wheels/sensors. My friend has perpetual 32lb readings but he parks his vette in the garage next to the stack of wheels with the original sensors and it still transmits every 60 minutes if there is no motion. My car too allowed a 1.03g turn with no sensors until about 75 miles or so. Eventually it goes into safe mode. Stating you don't have an issue is because the invasive AC setting isn't within your normal driving habits and you don't see the invasive effects but your car is severly restricted in handling capability. After a 100 miles and running 275's up front with wider rears too, I said to myself there is no way those run-flats are better handling tires than this set-up. To me it isn't ok but you may not notice it.

If you power down the PCM your pressure readings will drop to zero, the car automatically thinks its 4 flats, and activates a safety mode in active handling to reduce allowable g's. If you keep it under .7 you have no problem. The system also can not be bypassed and you can't go into competetive mode with the center console button.

There was no production change in this system and the VIN is irrelevant. For all C6's, if you run no sensors, you aren't getting any 1g turn capability and the active handling is too invasive. For written proof of this information simply read section 4-10 of your owners manual. To test if you're in this safe mode simply hit the center console button. If you can turn off active handling you are ok. It is likely that you will only be able to switch between traction control on/off but the active handling remains on and in safe mode making your car able to turn no better than a ford taurus.

The only determining factor is if your car still has a tire pressure reading over 24lbs on the display which will be the case if you park next to your original tires/sensors and you never powered down the car.(disconnecting the battery)
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Here is the contact info. You have to call them. They didn't answer email. $200 shipped CorvetteForum price.

Scot Holloway
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Bartec USA, LLC
6543 Arrow Drive
Sterling Heights, MI 48314
(586) 685-1300
Cell: (586) 524-1507
Email: sholloway@bartecusa.com
They indicate that tool you bought was a special and the new one is 299. I'll just get the original sensors put in the new wheels.
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I never got any warnings either. It was when I took my car to go do some serious handling tests that I found the active handling is working differently and not allowing the car to go past .7g turns.
Thanks for this post. We have been debating this stuff on the C6 Z06 forum and no one seems to know what's going on (even GM engineering types). The way the trouble kicks in explains why people are confused (like the blind men describing the elephant by touching different parts). The other big question is whether the $300 radio transmitter tool is really needed to reprogram for another set of sensors, or whether a strong magnet will work - again, lack of information even from folks who should know . . .
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They indicate that tool you bought was a special and the new one is 299. I'll just get the original sensors put in the new wheels.
you gotta be chittin me. I just sold mine with my rims for $150. Usually the guys that put the wheels on will activate the sensors for free. You might even be able to get your dealer to do it for you as a courtesy since it takes a whopping 1 minute. Beware of the tire shops though cause they think the C6 is like the C5 and doesn't need the tool, just a magnet. The last guy told me they have the tool but they have never taken it out of the box.
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I have the originals so if I put them in the same corner they came from I wont need a re-program.

The idea I was trying to relay was that I want to use different wheels and tires in different situations so a trip to the dealer is not going to work every time I go hunting with street ET's. I need another set of transmitters with a programmer. Bartec saw so many sales and jumped on a price increase.

For those still thinking a magnet works....there is no reed switch in the new transmitters. It is radio frequency activated at 315mhz. Magnets are for C5's only.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...84&forum_id=23


Here is some info on this. You will see from my post that I purchased the tool and I guess because my stock wheels were sitting in the pits and I would park next to them after each session that I had no problem.

Here is another post where it says a GM engineer reset the sensors with a magnet! I don't know what to think?

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...9&forum_id=100

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I have a magnet that worked fine on the C5, but it won't work on the C6 at all. I got in on the $199 Bartec deal, and their tool works perfectly on the C6.

I've not had any AH issues when running without sensors, but I've never been far from my original tires for 75+ miles either. No issues here. It's been known for months now that if you run track tires, you'll need a programming tool.
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Magnets don't work and no dealer says it does. Talked to 3.

My car also worked fine for a while until the pressure sensor readings changed to zero.

How do you put the car into learn mode for the sensors? I wonder if a tech 2 can deactivate the TPS system as it does on a C5.
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
Magnets don't work and no dealer says it does. Talked to 3.

My car also worked fine for a while until the pressure sensor readings changed to zero.

How do you put the car into learn mode for the sensors? I wonder if a tech 2 can deactivate the TPS system as it does on a C5.
Hold the unlock and lock buttons down on the fob at the same time for a few seconds and the car will beep letting you know that it is in learn mode. Have to set the sensors at front left, front right, rear right, and rear left, in that order. After it learns each one it will beep to let you know it learned it. After the last one, it will beep a couple of times to let you know it learned the last one and is done.
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