competitive driving mode?
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competitive driving mode?
hey guys, what does the competitive driving mode do? is this the quickest way to launch or should i just turn the traction control off, or leave it on?
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From: Shiloh Ohio
Originally Posted by Miaugi
Competitive driving mode raises the level in which active handling intervenes, so it will allow you to get a little more sideways before it helps regain "control" of the car. 
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First press and release is Traction Control Off, Active Handling On
Second press and release is Competitive Mode, T/C Off, A/H reduced interference.
Third press and HOLD till the DIC states T/C and A/H Off.
Second press and release is Competitive Mode, T/C Off, A/H reduced interference.
Third press and HOLD till the DIC states T/C and A/H Off.
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From: Montreal Qc
Originally Posted by shurite44
That is not how it works on a C5. Did they change the system that much?
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Originally Posted by haljensen
First press and release is Traction Control Off, Active Handling On
Second press and release is Competitive Mode, T/C Off, A/H reduced interference.
Third press and HOLD till the DIC states T/C and A/H Off.
Second press and release is Competitive Mode, T/C Off, A/H reduced interference.
Third press and HOLD till the DIC states T/C and A/H Off.
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Competitive mode has no traction control whatsoever, but it does have stability control with more driver freedom, appropriate for higher performance use where the base stability control may be intrusive for some drivers.
C5 and C6 comp mode have the same functionality for comp mode in this respect (different active handling and no traction) but the actual tuning and feel of the control systems are different to meet the requirements of the new chassis configurations.
C5 and C6 comp mode have the same functionality for comp mode in this respect (different active handling and no traction) but the actual tuning and feel of the control systems are different to meet the requirements of the new chassis configurations.
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From: Shiloh Ohio
Originally Posted by Miaugi
How do you think it works on a C5? My explanation was very basic, but I think it's accurate.
.Comp mode = Active handling is on and Traction Control is off.
Comp mode does not raise the level at which active handling intervenes. It simply turns off your traction control, active handling operates as normal. On a C5 this is how it works.
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Originally Posted by shurite44
Comp mode does not raise the level at which active handling intervenes. It simply turns off your traction control, active handling operates as normal. On a C5 this is how it works.
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From: Shiloh Ohio
Originally Posted by DoctorV8
No, the C5, like the C6, allows larger slip angles in Competition Mode before AH intervenes.
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Originally Posted by Arthur6
Hold the button down for about 10 seconds (seems like a long time), everything will be turned off.
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From: Houston TX
Originally Posted by shurite44
Source?? You may be right, I have heard of this before but any tech stuff from GM I have read simply says TC is off and AH is on.
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Originally Posted by DoctorV8
Let me look into it....don't remember off hand where....
I only use comp mode when I drag race and it has activated before and kept my line very straight, I did not even need to back off the throttle, but I could see it on the DIC and feel it. If it effected my ET adversely it was very minimal.
There were some members posting a few months ago that their TC was engaging with it in Comp mode and with the TC off. They said it happens with high HP moded cars. I was skeptical but several others jumped in the thread and verified it also happened to them. I am still a little skeptical of those claims. I don't think they are fabricating a story I just think what they felt was AH.
Edit: Just to keep this clear I am referring to C5's.
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Originally Posted by DoctorV8
Let me look into it....don't remember off hand where....
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Originally Posted by shurite44
There were some members posting a few months ago that their TC was engaging with it in Comp mode and with the TC off. They said it happens with high HP moded cars. I was skeptical but several others jumped in the thread and verified it also happened to them. I am still a little skeptical of those claims. I don't think they are fabricating a story I just think what they felt was AH.
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From: Shiloh Ohio
Originally Posted by TTRotary
Don't bother. You are absolutely correct technically. Problem is most people on here have no idea of what a slip angle is or what that means in terms of contact patch behavior.
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I don't think you can classify this as beating a dead horse when it seems like people do not really know what competitive driving mode is. Odd bunch over here in the C6 section.
Anyway here are the articles I referred to. As you can see both state when competitive driving mode is engaged TC is off and AH is on.
I guess the techs that wrote the articles must be like most of the people on here, no idea what slip angle or contact patch behavior is.
Now that one did crack me up. Ok so please tell me what in the definition of slip angle and contact patch would tell me TC is on when in Competative driving mode.
http://www.idavette.net/hib/ah1.htm
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...01agility.html
So is AH enhanced when in competitive driving mode, I am not sure but these articles certainly do not indicate this. Is TC off when in competitive driving mode, well according to every tech article on the subject I have read yes.
So I stick with my statement.
Comp mode = TC off AH on.
Anyway here are the articles I referred to. As you can see both state when competitive driving mode is engaged TC is off and AH is on.
I guess the techs that wrote the articles must be like most of the people on here, no idea what slip angle or contact patch behavior is.
Now that one did crack me up. Ok so please tell me what in the definition of slip angle and contact patch would tell me TC is on when in Competative driving mode. http://www.idavette.net/hib/ah1.htm
In the competitive mode, the system's ability to reduce wheel spin on acceleration is disabled but Active Handling's other capabilities remain. In many dry pavement, aggressive driving situations, because of the Corvette's limited slip differential, it's advantageous to have rear wheel spin. Those situations are when the competitive driving mode should be used.
As alluded to in the previous paragraph, Corvette's Active Handling system has a unique feature called "Competitive Mode", which allows the driver to disengage the car's traction control feature without giving up Active Handling's other benefits.
So I stick with my statement.
Comp mode = TC off AH on.