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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first four rows at the Daytona 500. In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4 G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half track, the launch acceleration approaches 8 G's. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

Putting this all in perspective: You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin turbo" powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The "tree" goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within three seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it - from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long course.

Now THAT'S horsepower!
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Originally Posted by normlunt
One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine
Now THAT'S horsepower!
You need not say anymore
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Thing is how many gallons of fuel did he burn in that 1320 feet?

Yeah it can beat a vette that had a 200 mph head start, but it can't carry enough fuel to get to Wal-mart.

Nor can the engine last more than a handfull of pulls without being rebuilt.

The Vette on the other hand is the best of both worlds. Fast but somewhat practical.

I understand the idea of showing what real acceleration is. Just amazing.

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Originally Posted by bigpoppax2
Thing is how many gallons of fuel did he burn in that 1320 feet?Joe
Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-½ gallons of nitomethane per second: a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less power being produced.

Yeah, and the dragster isn't EPA rated for 16 City and 26 Highway either.

Apples and oragnes, of course -- just having fun.

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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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Why specify a Dodge creation? I saw a few GM based top fuel motors that could do the same thing.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SpinMonster
Why specify a Dodge creation? I saw a few GM based top fuel motors that could do the same thing.
Really? Who's running one?
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by normlunt
One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first four rows at the Daytona 500. In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4 G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half track, the launch acceleration approaches 8 G's. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

Putting this all in perspective: You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin turbo" powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The "tree" goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within three seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it - from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long course.

Now THAT'S horsepower!

A Vette running at that speed (constant 200 MPH) would be running a hair over a 5 second quartermile.

So, even at a record run for a dragster, I would say that that dragster would JUST be passing it right around the finish line, well after 3 seconds.

Still a neat fact, but I was bored and did the math.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Stupid fast!!!! Like Big Daddy Don Garlets said "it's all about horsepower and traction" I think they have the horsepower thing down pat.

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6 million horsepower, 0 to 17,500 MPH in 8 minutes. Engines throttle back to keep acceleration down to 3G for occupant comfort.

EPA ratings not available.

Oh, and it's loud. Really, really loud.

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OK, OK, I'll give you that, but does the dragster come with a warranty???




Just having a little fun the day before a long holiday week!!

Happy Holidays,

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What happens to that dragster as a nice bend comes up?
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Hey Ed
Put some of that Nitro fuel in a twin turboed car. Then you would have some huge fun. Don't forget the huge fuel pump.
Happy Holidays
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Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-½ gallons of nitomethane per second: a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less power being produced.

First of all, you are comparing apples to oranges. Jet Engines produce 0 Horsepower. Horsepower is a measurement of power, while thrust is a measure of force. :o

Each engine (there are four)on a typical 747-400 (different airlines use different engines) produce 65,000 lbs. of thrust for a total of 260,000 lbs. of thrust. It is enough to propel an 875,000 lb. airplane to a takeoff speed of almost 200 mph and a Mmo) of mach .92.

Your dragster example would not even stand a chance to get a 747 airborne much less have the "power" to propel it for 15 hours at a cruise speed of .86 mach. There is NO comparison.
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http://www.metacafe.com/watch/47116/747_jet_blast/

For a demonstration of the "jetblast" behind a 747 here's a humurous link. Apparently, this 747 only has 58,000lbs. thrust/engine.
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Originally Posted by normlunt
One top fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first four rows at the Daytona 500. In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4 G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half track, the launch acceleration approaches 8 G's. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

Putting this all in perspective: You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin turbo" powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The "tree" goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within three seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it - from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long course.

Now THAT'S horsepower!
Yeah but how does that dragster do on the autocross course?

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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifterkartdrvr
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/47116/747_jet_blast/

For a demonstration of the "jetblast" behind a 747 here's a humurous link. Apparently, this 747 only has 58,000lbs. thrust/engine.
Definitely a funny video. How the hell do you get that guy's job? He does some fun stuff!

Maybe that should be part of the standard crash testing?
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Originally Posted by Shifterkartdrvr
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/47116/747_jet_blast/

For a demonstration of the "jetblast" behind a 747 here's a humurous link. Apparently, this 747 only has 58,000lbs. thrust/engine.
There is nothing that makes my heart pump like a Top Fuel car, but that is one funny video!
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Originally Posted by lytmup
A Vette running at that speed (constant 200 MPH) would be running a hair over a 5 second quartermile.

So, even at a record run for a dragster, I would say that that dragster would JUST be passing it right around the finish line, well after 3 seconds.

Still a neat fact, but I was bored and did the math.

yeah and when the dragster passes it it would be going 130mph faster than the corvette!
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Originally Posted by 3car5
There is nothing that makes my heart pump like a Top Fuel car, but that is one funny video!

I'll agree with that! Not many events in the sporting world affect your body like a Top Fuel staging. Your whole body shakes....your nose burns...your ears are pounding...man...
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Originally Posted by bigpoppax2
Thing is how many gallons of fuel did he burn in that 1320 feet?

Yeah it can beat a vette that had a 200 mph head start, but it can't carry enough fuel to get to Wal-mart.

Nor can the engine last more than a handfull of pulls without being rebuilt.

The Vette on the other hand is the best of both worlds. Fast but somewhat practical.

I understand the idea of showing what real acceleration is. Just amazing.

Joe

Yes...but it's a very big HEMI!!!!!
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