Predator install questions/feedback thread
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Predator install questions/feedback thread
Thought I'd start a Predator install thread. I just got mine (thanks TByrne!) and am ready to install the performance tune. Sounds important to pull the radio fuses per the manual so I'll do that, but does anyone know whether we need to push/hold the accessory button for 10 seconds or just press it once? Seems like if you just press it, the accessory mode might have a chance of turning off (timing out) while programming (bad). Also, does anyone know whether the default tune reduces torque management? Completely disables it?
Mike
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
Thought I'd start a Predator install thread. I just got mine (thanks TByrne!) and am ready to install the performance tune. Sounds important to pull the radio fuses per the manual so I'll do that, but does anyone know whether we need to push/hold the accessory button for 10 seconds or just press it once? Seems like if you just press it, the accessory mode might have a chance of turning off (timing out) while programming (bad). Also, does anyone know whether the default tune reduces torque management? Completely disables it?
Mike
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Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by AutoCutter
If you are trying to ignition on/no start then hold the accessory button down for 10 or more seconds-it will not time out. Why does the manual tell you to pull the radio fuses? You have the manual, we don't.
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Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
"For LS2 vehicles... You must remove the "Radio/Cell phone" fuse. Failure to do so may result in radio failure due to bus communication activity."
Mike
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Originally Posted by AutoCutter
Mike, is that because of OnStar interference?
Mike
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
I don't know. The warning comes after an OnStar warning but the way the manual is written, it looks like the radio fuse warning is completely separate from the OnStar warning page and you need to pull that fuse regardless. Hard to tell as the manual is not the most concisely written manual. It is clearly a "generic" manual written for multiple cars with just a few inserted words here and there about "Corvette do this" or "LS2 do that".
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
Also, does anyone know whether the default tune reduces torque management? Completely disables it?
Whenever you are ready for true custom tuning for use with your Predator then please do not hesitate to come on over to my custom tuning support websites and sign up for our services!
www.GMcustomtuning.com (aka www.DiabloSportTuning.com)
www.diablosporttuning.com/cost_custom.htm
Kind Regards...
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Originally Posted by RWTD
Mike, yes sir, the base tuning from DiabloSport does disable TM in the vehicle, and it does remove the throttle limiter. Those two in themselves make for a great improvement in the drivability and power delivery of the vehicle.
Whenever you are ready for true custom tuning for use with your Predator then please do not hesitate to come on over to my custom tuning support websites and sign up for our services!
www.GMcustomtuning.com (aka www.DiabloSportTuning.com)
www.diablosporttuning.com/cost_custom.htm
Kind Regards...
Whenever you are ready for true custom tuning for use with your Predator then please do not hesitate to come on over to my custom tuning support websites and sign up for our services!
www.GMcustomtuning.com (aka www.DiabloSportTuning.com)
www.diablosporttuning.com/cost_custom.htm
Kind Regards...
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RWTD,
Thanks for the info, and your site looks good! I'll probably join once I get the initial tune installed and I see what the Predator can do. Do you have any quick instructions specific to the LS2? The link http://www.diablosporttuning.com/gm_custom_ls2.htm seems to be a broken link. I was wondering specifically if you have to pull the radio fuse(s) on a vehicle with Nav and no OnStar, and whether you should do the tuning with the car in the "full accessory mode" (hold acc for 10 seconds) or the normal acc mode (just press the button). Thanks for any advice. I don't want to end up with a brain dead C6 and the Predator instructions are pretty bad.
Mike
Thanks for the info, and your site looks good! I'll probably join once I get the initial tune installed and I see what the Predator can do. Do you have any quick instructions specific to the LS2? The link http://www.diablosporttuning.com/gm_custom_ls2.htm seems to be a broken link. I was wondering specifically if you have to pull the radio fuse(s) on a vehicle with Nav and no OnStar, and whether you should do the tuning with the car in the "full accessory mode" (hold acc for 10 seconds) or the normal acc mode (just press the button). Thanks for any advice. I don't want to end up with a brain dead C6 and the Predator instructions are pretty bad.
Mike
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I'm sure you will hear back from RWTD, but I just intalled this evening and it was pretty simple. You do have to pull the OnStar fuse and the radio fuse. The manual tells you the fuse name on page 7. They are in the fuse box under the carpet on the passanger side floor board. When I installed my tune, I just hit the bottom of the button and activated accessary mode while having the Predator plugged in. The port is facing down to the floor just under the steering column. As soon as the accessary mode came on the Predator was powered and you just follow the prompts. Didn't take 5 minutes. Just make sure the doors are closed and the emergency brake set, you don't want anything powered up when transferring the data.
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St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'08
Ok my Question....Will This Predator BE worth getting If You Have Kook Headers,Hi Flow Cats,Xpipe,Corsa Sport and a Vortec Ram Air...Or is a Dyno Tune The Way to go? HAve Another question when this one is Answered...
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Originally Posted by YellowVette22
Ok my Question....Will This Predator BE worth getting If You Have Kook Headers,Hi Flow Cats,Xpipe,Corsa Sport and a Vortec Ram Air...Or is a Dyno Tune The Way to go? HAve Another question when this one is Answered...
You get to read and reset codes with it. You can monitor engine performance without lugging out a laptop tot he car. If later you sell the car returnm the stock program and sell the thing. Very cheap.
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Just installed the power tune and I'm about to go for a drive but I'd really like some instruction on the parameters when modifying a tune. For example, the cooling fan "power versus ECT": like all other parameters, it is nothing but a -/+ scale with no description. Does anyone have access to the descriptions so that we can tell what we are actually adjusting? None of the parameters even show the units so you don't know if you are adjusting (for example) degrees, percent, or some arbitrary calibration amount. Someone at DiabloSport really needs to quantify what you are changing. Maybe there's a link to a doc somewhere but if so, I can't find it and the manual is useless on this point. Any tips?
Mike
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Originally Posted by mikeyc6
Just installed the power tune and I'm about to go for a drive but I'd really like some instruction on the parameters when modifying a tune. For example, the cooling fan "power versus ECT": like all other parameters, it is nothing but a -/+ scale with no description. Does anyone have access to the descriptions so that we can tell what we are actually adjusting? None of the parameters even show the units so you don't know if you are adjusting (for example) degrees, percent, or some arbitrary calibration amount. Someone at DiabloSport really needs to quantify what you are changing. Maybe there's a link to a doc somewhere but if so, I can't find it and the manual is useless on this point. Any tips?
Mike
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Mickey, AutoCutter is asking the same Q on a different thread. There are at least 3 threads going on the Predator.
What do you guys think if we switched over to the Scan and Tune section where there is a thread going. ? Just a suggestion ...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=124
"Predator -- Feedback and Results"
What do you guys think if we switched over to the Scan and Tune section where there is a thread going. ? Just a suggestion ...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=124
"Predator -- Feedback and Results"