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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Currently running Borla Sport Cat-Backs w/ X-Pipe.

If I add Kooks headers, how much louder will I be?

preference is not much, the Borlas attract enough attention.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jagcvette
Why do you all say that LG is a "better" header with "superior fit and finish"? How is it better? For example, I have never heard of anyone with Kooks headers complain about how they fit on the vette. However, I do know that LG headers have caused the check engine light to come on on some members cars. I have not heard the same problem occuring with Kooks headers. I have not seen LG headers in person, but I wonder why folks jump on the bandwagon and say they are "better" without specifying why or how. LG headers may well be better (I don't know), but please tell us why you feel that way instead of stating a conclusion without also stating facts that support it.
I apologize if I come across saying LG's are “better” than another. I wouldn't go that far unless I have actually tried another header on the C6. I have not run kooks, dynatech, nor any others on the C6 to make a performance comparison. I have seen dyno graphs and the fact that Lou G. has won professoinal races with this header design however. What I do mean by “you get what you pay for” is the fact LG headers are of very good quality, went on without the slightest need for adjustment, gives me the sound I was looking for, and the low end torque is ideal for street use which is where I would benefit most. This is soley my experiance and opinions which I will stand by.

Another big consideration for me is customer service. When I am spending $1700 for a product that requires installation I woant to some guidance if needed. I found that Anthony, Sean, and others at LG Motor sports are actually hands-on guys when it comes to the install and can advise you on every and any question regarding installing of headers. That is invaluable in any product in my book! Not that headers are difficult to install, by any means, however I did have a question regarding routing of the O2 sensor wires and torque pattern and they had the answers with one simple phone call. (Many have even seen Lou himself answer questions on this forum). Perhaps other header mfg co’s offer the same technical knowledge with their phone staff, I wouldn’t know. I can only say I was impressed which is unusual in today’s business climate.

As far as the check engine light goes, yes you can get a CEL because the cats relocation/temp adjustment etc. However the computer relearns itself over time and will eventually quite throwing a code. Or, as most people should do, get your C6 tuned/dyno and program the O2 sensors so there is no issue wih CEL any longer. Lastly, ceramic coating (jet hott, etc) will provide relief for the CEL issue I am told. However I have no experiance with Ceramic coating on LG's to prove whether true or not.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jagcvette
Thats too funny. Forgot what dealership web site I got the pic from. So much for easy installation.


Actually, I just found it. The pic is from LM performance web site.
http://www.lmperformance.com/4928/74.html
What is even funnier is thats where i bought them from !
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Headers are good. Snow is bad.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Headers are good. Snow is bad.


sick of the farkin snow
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Poor bastards
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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you guys just got a buttload of it!!!!!!
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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you guys just got a buttload of it!!!!!!
Yes but melting fast !
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jagcvette
Bunk22, how loud is yours? I have the same set up as you, Kooks with Corsa sports. I listened to my car for the first time today over the phone when it was at the shop and it sounded LOUD. The shop owner even commented on it. I want a nice rumble, but not so loud that everyone turns and looks at me like I'm some teenager.
It's loud but not unbearable. I love the rumble at idle and when it screams at WOT. I think you will like it. I'm the same way, not looking for young loud but to at least sound mean.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:01 PM
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I may wait on the headers ...

APS TT is coming and I WANT ONE!!!!

Dont think I can do that install alone
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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Guys,

After much thought and research, i decided to go with the LG Longtube Headers. Like you I also checked the forum and found that LG had more positive feedback, and not to mention that LG Motorsports is about 5 miles from my house. Also, Anthony, Bobby and all the guys at LG made me feel confident about trustin a $46,000.00 car with them. Attached is a Dyno run with LG Longtube Headers and a tune.................................Man ny

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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Those are definitely nice gains!!
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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One fellow Soldier to Another ....


I am only 3 miles from Springfield...it is my civic duty to break in the 403 for you. I promise to not exceed the speed limit, spin the tires, rev the engine, or other performance based testing.

Trust me!

Ill even make you a video and send it to you
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Guys,

After much thought and research, i decided to go with the LG Longtube Headers. Like you I also checked the forum and found that LG had more positive feedback, and not to mention that LG Motorsports is about 5 miles from my house. Also, Anthony, Bobby and all the guys at LG made me feel confident about trustin a $46,000.00 car with them. Attached is a Dyno run with LG Longtube Headers and a tune.................................Man ny
Great power from just a set of longtune headers and engine tuning - you'd have to be happy with those gains.

Peter
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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What difference does the tune make?

Can you run the car without a tune?


The reason I ask is that I am doing my headers soon and want to wait a few weeks till I do the cams to get a tune ..
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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I did Kooks on my C6 and now getting Kooks on my C6 Z06. I think either way you go you will get about the same quality and the same gains. JMO
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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Step into the unknown, I got he BB headers and they are amazing, without tune or ex pipe and with the bullets I was making 376 whp with same tq numbers, now with cam over 420 wheel, I only paid 839 shipped, why dont we dollar cost average the whp with that price
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Step into the unknown, I got he BB headers and they are amazing, without tune or ex pipe and with the bullets I was making 376 whp with same tq numbers, now with cam over 420 wheel, I only paid 839 shipped, why dont we dollar cost average the whp with that price
no x-pipe? this is prolly hurting your gains.

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Have You Looked At The American Racing Headers Vette Doctor Series All Stainless Great Fit And Finish Great Power Gains The Guy That Ownes The Company Designed All The Headers For Kooks For The Past Twelve Years Now He On His Own And Builds A Great Product Just Like He Did For Kooks.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by burtonbl103
This pic is all Wrong for the lgs
The cats go up the front not at the back

Someone put this together wrong on the floor



Look at this

See the off road pipes in the front( this is where the cats would go )
this is the correct way

correct.

If you run with NO cats, then put the X pipe directly behind the collectors. But if you run Cats, then the Cats go before the X pipe.

We pride ourselves on making torque without losing measurable top rpm hp. We could not road race without this long of a header for the low end torque pulling out of the slow corners. Driving on the street is not unlike a road race track.

Our Merge collectors do help the top end to not lose power but a shorter header without a Merge can make more peak hp but lose some bottom end.

The key to our X pipe is that is is a parallel/siamese X pipe, which means that the exhaust has an outlet, and crossover without having the exhaust pulses "CRASH" into each other causing flat spots.

Even on the new 427 cu in 7 liter Z06, we made over 550rwhp and 516 rwtq in a new Z06, so the headers are not limited even with a big cu in engine.

So I also think we have the record for the fastest Corvette with these headers on a road course.

Thanks and I hope this helps.

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