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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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This is my first time on forum and first time posting. Hope I'm doing this right. Thinking of going with Dynatech headers coated by Jet-Hot. I have a local guy that tells me that Dynatech su_ _ _ _! He says it can cause fire to my c6 and won't give me much hp. Anybody out there that can shed some light into this? Thanks !
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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You will find that headers are a personal preference to many. As to the fire, last year there was a major issue with someones car catching on fire because of the headers. Turns out that the headers were up against the hydraulic clutch line. They changed the headers to include some kind of bracket that would keep the line off the headers. Then it was discovered that (and admitted to me personally by dynatech) that the headers really needed some fitment work for the 6-spd cars. Because of this there were some seriously good deals on their kits just a few months ago "only for automatic cars". My understanding now is that they are working on or may even be done with the latest run that are designed properly. I see pros and cons on all of the header brands.

Dynatechs seem to produce power just fine and as an added bonus they are a complete bolt on ready to install system that includes things such as the o2 extensions. Word has it the started last year some time using the better converters (metal matrix?)

Kooks are priced similarly but do not include items like the o2 sensors. At least one person here talked about how poor the instructions were and said that they were a bit of a pain to install, something about them not fitting right. Kooks came on and defended their product saying they tell you to get everything lined up and then crank them down.

The LG's seem to be a favorite among many people but are truley the most expensive. Some argue that they produce more power than the others. LG claims the design is in fact the best and says that his dyno numbers prove it.

I am yet to see an independent test on who's makes the most power. One person offered up to spend the dyno time and money to do an independent test. None of the manufacturers ponied up so it is still in the air. This same person is doing the test on their own yet AND I AM STILL WAITING FOR HIM TO SELL ME THE KOOKS CHEAP!!
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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I have Dynatech headers on my C6, 6-speed and I am perfectly happy with them. If I had to choose again today and Dynatech would produce them for the C6 with 1 3/4 inch diameter primary tubes, I'd buy Dynatech again without comparison to other types. If they wouldn't, I'd buy 1 3/4 LG's. They look very similar to Dynatech's and they perform very well on the LG World Challenge car. I'm sure that many other types are fine, too. That is just what I would do.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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LGs are not the most expensive system right now. They have been shown to produce the most tor adn similiar if not slightly higher HP numbers. I found a set from LM performance for 1700 shipped and it is the complete set with extensions and all. I think that is the best price you will find and with the free shipping it makes them less than other headers in the market. People will respond with various type of arguements. I go by you pay for what you get. It is a known fact in the racing industry. 100 is not going to keep me from getting the type of headers that I want. Do your search and pm if you need more information I have the LGs sitting in my house right now. Problem is that Boston Mass is not a good place for installations I see. They just dont want to do it here and I am getting ready to drive to NC with the long tubes sticking out the side of my car to get them install.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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LGs are not the most expensive system right now. They have been shown to produce the most tor adn similiar if not slightly higher HP numbers. I found a set from LM performance for 1700 shipped and it is the complete set with extensions and all. I think that is the best price you will find and with the free shipping it makes them less than other headers in the market. People will respond with various type of arguements. I go by you pay for what you get. It is a known fact in the racing industry. 100 is not going to keep me from getting the type of headers that I want. Do your search and pm if you need more information I have the LGs sitting in my house right now. Problem is that Boston Mass is not a good place for installations I see. They just dont want to do it here and I am getting ready to drive to NC with the long tubes sticking out the side of my car to get them install.
Both the dynatech and kooks systems were going for <$1300. Yet to see even a used set of LG's hit that mark.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Those are ebay prices. Look at Tyberne and they are more for the complete set.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Actually, no they're not. Those are prices from a supporting vendor.
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thanks all, for the responses, this is great. I was thinking matchiing Dynatech with Magnflow muffler because from the sound bytes I have heard on internet it some to be least loudesgt from the others, I don't like really loud, just a liittle louder thant stock but not obnoxious, anyone has this set-up?
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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thanks all, for the responses, this is great. I was thinking matchiing Dynatech with Magnflow muffler because from the sound bytes I have heard on internet it some to be least loudesgt from the others, I don't like really loud, just a liittle louder thant stock but not obnoxious, anyone has this set-up?
I have the Dynatech with the Corsa Sports. It is not too loud for me. Everyone that rides in the car likes the sound and there is no drone.
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I am happy with my Dynatech headers. I was very impressed with the build quality and fit and finish of them.

I normally agree with the "you get what you pay for idea" however in this case I think it is false. Keep in mind if we all looked at it this way the Viper is far and away the better American sports car versus the Z06, not to mention the >$100,000 exotics that it will outperform.

The TQ curve is pretty flat too with the Dynatechs.



These are uncorrected numbers.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Brett Hunter
I am happy with my Dynatech headers. I was very impressed with the build quality and fit and finish of them.

I normally agree with the "you get what you pay for idea" however in this case I think it is false. Keep in mind if we all looked at it this way the Viper is far and away the better American sports car versus the Z06, not to mention the >$100,000 exotics that it will outperform.

The TQ curve is pretty flat too with the Dynatechs.



These are uncorrected numbers.
REPLY: Every single magazine ive read that compares the 06/ZO6 to the Viper, has the ZO6 out-handling it hands down. Even the 06/LS2 is a meager 4/10 ths of a second slower over the span of a quarter mile versus a pre-2005 Viper ... and the Viper has 122 more cu. inches ! The Viper should be quite a bit faster than the 06/LS2 but given its 700 lbs heavier, it takes h.p. to overcome that. (The Viper needs to go on a diet) . I drove my friends 2001 Viper , and while its a great looking car, i was unimpressed with many of its characteristics ; not to mention the extreme heat that infiltrates in where your feet are. Both the 2006 LS2 and Zo6 is alot of bang for the buck and is truly a superbly engineered machine .
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REPLY: Every single magazine ive read that compares the 06/ZO6 to the Viper, has the ZO6 out-handling it hands down. Even the 06/LS2 is a meager 4/10 ths of a second slower over the span of a quarter mile versus a pre-2005 Viper ... and the Viper has 122 more cu. inches ! The Viper should be quite a bit faster than the 06/LS2 but given its 700 lbs heavier, it takes h.p. to overcome that. (The Viper needs to go on a diet) . I drove my friends 2001 Viper , and while its a great looking car, i was unimpressed with many of its characteristics ; not to mention the extreme heat that infiltrates in where your feet are. Both the 2006 LS2 and Zo6 is alot of bang for the buck and is truly a superbly engineered machine .

My point exactly, you don't always get what you pay for.
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Take A Look At The American Racing Headers Vette Doctors Series Great Product.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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i have them and i love them realy u can get what you pay for ,realy u can see the high quality and good performance
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Which headers you have?
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my car is one of the 2 cars that caught on fire from the Dynatech headers. i purchased them almost right after they came out, before the adjustment was made to seperate them from the hydrolic clutch line.

Dynatech solved my problem and replaced the headers, but the agony i went through seeing my car down for so long was by far not worth it...

ive heard they solved the problem, whatever. the choice is yours.

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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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I had Dynatech headers installed on my C6 6speed on 4/7/05. The installer said that he thought that they might have been the first set installed on a 6 speed. I got lucky and had no fire. The installer and Dynatech worked together to replace mine with the revised 6 speed design and the clutch line clip at no cost to me. The total time for the replacement including waiting about 10 days for the revised design to be completed was about 3 weeks. I am happy with the headers, the installer and Dynatech. As I said, I got lucky and I also got the royal treatment. Some guys weren't/didn't.
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You can shorten your tip and go to the Vette Doctor on Long Island and get a quality install at a fair price.
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Originally Posted by smdio
my car is one of the 2 cars that caught on fire from the Dynatech headers. i purchased them almost right after they came out, before the adjustment was made to seperate them from the hydrolic clutch line.

Dynatech solved my problem and replaced the headers, but the agony i went through seeing my car down for so long was by far not worth it...

ive heard they solved the problem, whatever. the choice is yours.

good luck
REPLY: How very unfortunate. Do you have pics of the fire damage to your vette ? Were you able to put it out quickly ? I phone Dynatech recently and the Tech Sales guy said they now ship a bracket which keeps the fluid line against the frame rail and away from the primary header tube. Ive got mine ordered with BandB's Route 66 Catback.
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