C6 Tech/Performance LS2, LS3, LS7, LS9 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Why a z51?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 06:09 PM
  #1  
Art Wake's Avatar
Art Wake
Thread Starter
8th Gear
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Default Why a z51?

I am in the market for a new corvette and recently have been to several dealerships. I want an 06 loaded, with z51. My question is why would the sales people be trying to talk me out of the z51 package. It seems that more then not they say it's not worth it, the ride is to rough and so on. Am I missing something or should I stay away from the z51.

My reason for wanting it is not to go to the race track I just want all the performance I can get and don't want to look back and wish I had it.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 06:29 PM
  #2  
LS WON's Avatar
LS WON
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 32,074
Likes: 296
From: San Francisco CA
Default

Because they don't have one in stock or can locate one for you to sell to you.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 06:32 PM
  #3  
Hoonose's Avatar
Hoonose
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 53,520
Likes: 77
From: Arizona
Default

Originally Posted by Art Wake
I am in the market for a new corvette and recently have been to several dealerships. I want an 06 loaded, with z51. My question is why would the sales people be trying to talk me out of the z51 package. It seems that more then not they say it's not worth it, the ride is to rough and so on. Am I missing something or should I stay away from the z51.
My reason for wanting it is not to go to the race track I just want all the performance I can get and don't want to look back and wish I had it.
There has been availability problems, so if you're set on Z51 they may not have a sale.
Get what you want.
And I don't know why you wouldn't want Z51, unless you're driving on really crappy roads. Then F55 may be the ticket.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 06:42 PM
  #4  
rfopt's Avatar
rfopt
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,031
Likes: 4
From: Crete IL
Default

The sales folks are saying that because the average car owner as well as some corvette owners place a priority on ride quality. Some prefer the base or F55 suspension options. That being said many people don't think the Z51 ride is uncomfortable. The Z51s ride is no worse than other sports cars that have only one suspension setup available, such as M3s, some 911s, 350Zs.

I don't blame the sales people for trying to talk you out of the Z51. Chevy misleadingly advertises it as an option suitable only for track driving when that is not necessarily true. Some like it on the street as well. Everyone has a preference.

Last edited by rfopt; Feb 18, 2006 at 06:46 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 06:42 PM
  #5  
LS WON's Avatar
LS WON
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 32,074
Likes: 296
From: San Francisco CA
Default

I can vouch for that..The F-55 is the way to go.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 06:52 PM
  #6  
Turbooo2u's Avatar
Turbooo2u
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,714
Likes: 6
From: Providence RI
Default

I've driven both the Z-51 and non Z51. I bought the non Z and made a few upgrades. When the road gets BUMPY, the Z51 gets NERVOUS. I live in the Northeast with bumpy roads and my non z with some carefully selected upgrades never gets nervous.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 07:11 PM
  #7  
BrandonS's Avatar
BrandonS
Racer
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
From: Felton De
Default

Yea, but wouldn't you expect a less predictable, more bumpy ride over uneven pavement w/ a stiffer suspension to begin with? I don't have a c6, but i do have an s2000 w a suspension stiffer than stock. You just need to know when to use the full potential of your car and when not to. A super stiff susp. will be better suited to the track, but will also still perform under nominal road conditions..... but if the road is bumpy you'd better watch out. I have no doubt that the f-55 will out perform a z51 under those conditions.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 07:28 PM
  #8  
d_bravo33's Avatar
d_bravo33
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 230
Likes: 0
Default

As a couple of people have said, it's likely that the sales reps didn't have one in stock or inbound. Did you find one to drive? The only way to decide, I think, is to drive both the Z51 and base or F55. If you don't see the difference, save your money.

My '96 LT4 was equipped with Z51 and we loved it. I ordered my C6 with the option after test driving two with Z51s, and two with base suspension. It simply preference...and, for me, being close to lots of smooth, curvy roads and some accessible tracks in Northern California.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 07:37 PM
  #9  
GTC's Avatar
GTC
Safety Car
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 4,434
Likes: 1
From: Austin TX
Cruise-In IV Veteran
Cruise-In V Veteran
Cruise-In VI Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'05
Default

If GM ran their operation right, you should be able to buy/order the vette that YOU want. Sometimes that is not always the case, though, especially with the vette.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 07:56 PM
  #10  
'06 Quicksilver Z06's Avatar
'06 Quicksilver Z06
Team Owner
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 38,314
Likes: 35
Default

Originally Posted by Art Wake
I am in the market for a new corvette and recently have been to several dealerships. I want an 06 loaded, with z51. My question is why would the sales people be trying to talk me out of the z51 package. It seems that more then not they say it's not worth it, the ride is to rough and so on. Am I missing something or should I stay away from the z51.
I agree with those who say or imply that it is likely that they don't have one available to sell you, nor can they get their hands on one to sell you. Z51 has been on constraint for most of the '05 and '06 production run. Ask yourself why.

Don't tell me.......The salesman likely told you that there was not "that much" of a performance difference between the two in an effort to get you to buy the non Z51 equipped car didn't he? Don't believe it. Any time someone tells you that consider their motives. More often than not, they either are trying to sell you a non Z51 car or they are trying to justify their own purchase.


My reason for wanting it is not to go to the race track I just want all the performance I can get and don't want to look back and wish I had it.
Indeed you do. I could not agree more. You are about to buy a CORVETTE . ..........So get all the factory performance that you can afford and don't let the fact that they cannot get what you want, deter you and make you end up with something that you do not want. It is a fact that the Z51 offers the most factory performance in the C6 Corvette money can buy short of going to the Z06.

Don't settle for less because you will regret it. No need in making a monthly payment or paying cash for something less than what you wanted in the first place. Every month you send in that payment you are liable to wonder what might have been had I gone ahead and gotten a Z51. If you are spending that much money, then you may as well get what you want and don't worry about whether some salesman is going to make his commision.

Last edited by '06 Quicksilver Z06; Feb 18, 2006 at 08:08 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 08:04 PM
  #11  
z51dcs's Avatar
z51dcs
Advanced
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
From: Grayson Georgia
Default

Do you prefer better cooling, braking, acceleration, and handling; or do you prefer a ride that is more compliant? Its personal preference and you really can't go wrong, performance levels of all C5 and C6 vettes are far superior to most other vehicles you will encounter. I have had both, my preference is Z51, I like to charge thru corners as hard as possible.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 08:07 PM
  #12  
99 The Hard Way's Avatar
99 The Hard Way
Drifting
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,471
Likes: 1
From: Pensacola FL
Default

I don't think this was mentioned, but I bought the Z51 for the gearing and the brakes, not the suspension. I can adjust that somewhat with different shocks. In the C6 it's more than just suspension, it's a performance package. I think it also has extra coolers, and I don't recall the G meter on the heads up display on the non Z51. Just a few more thoughts
Scott
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 08:07 PM
  #13  
kenw's Avatar
kenw
VIR
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,442
Likes: 127
From: Palmyra Va
Default

Originally Posted by rfopt
The sales folks are saying that because the average car owner as well as some corvette owners place a priority on ride quality. Some prefer the base or F55 suspension options. That being said many people don't think the Z51 ride is uncomfortable. The Z51s ride is no worse than other sports cars that have only one suspension setup available, such as M3s, some 911s, 350Zs.

I don't blame the sales people for trying to talk you out of the Z51. Chevy misleadingly advertises it as an option suitable only for track driving when that is not necessarily true. Some like it on the street as well. Everyone has a preference.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 08:22 PM
  #14  
Daylon's Avatar
Daylon
Pro
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
From: Lamesa Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
I've driven both the Z-51 and non Z51. I bought the non Z and made a few upgrades. When the road gets BUMPY, the Z51 gets NERVOUS. I live in the Northeast with bumpy roads and my non z with some carefully selected upgrades never gets nervous.
A set of Bilisteins will cure the nervous feeling, just swapped mine and could not believe the difference!
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 08:36 PM
  #15  
Lebowski's Avatar
Lebowski
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 866
Likes: 0
From: Orlando FL
Default

Originally Posted by LS WON
Because they don't have one in stock or can locate one for you to sell to you.


Unless you said something indicating ride quality is a high priority for you, IMO the only reason a salesperson would try and talk you out of it would be if he/she didn't think he could get one (or get one quickly, he wants to sell you a car today after all).
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 08:37 PM
  #16  
xs650's Avatar
xs650
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,375
Likes: 1
From: Northern CA
Default

Originally Posted by Daylon
A set of Bilisteins will cure the nervous feeling, just swapped mine and could not believe the difference!
That's not suprising. My impresion test driving a Z51 was that the stock shocks were crude.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:19 PM
  #17  
Daylon's Avatar
Daylon
Pro
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
From: Lamesa Texas
Default

Originally Posted by xs650
That's not suprising. My impresion test driving a Z51 was that the stock shocks were crude.
Very, If I was ordering a new Z51 I'd order the shocks first then the car!
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Why a z51?

Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:40 PM
  #18  
Vette_DD's Avatar
Vette_DD
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Top Answer: 3
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 82,175
Likes: 1,319
From: McKinney TX
St. Jude Donor '21-'22-'23-'24
Default

Originally Posted by 99 The Hard Way
I don't recall the G meter on the heads up display on the non Z51. Just a few more thoughts
Scott
The non-Z51 has a G-meter on the HUD. I've got the base suspension and I can assure you that it's there.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:25 PM
  #19  
fredgpowell's Avatar
fredgpowell
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
From: Boston MA
Default

I would say z51.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 02:22 AM
  #20  
C-INRED's Avatar
C-INRED
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 6,709
Likes: 1
From: Pacific Northwest
St. Jude Donor '06
Default

There are very strong opinions and preferences on this issue...but what it should come down to is YOUR priorities and how YOU are going to use the vehicle. IMHO you should figure out what's important to you and how you are going to use the car and then test drive both and decide what works best for YOU.

If you test drive the F55, be sure to drive it on less than perfect roads...this is where it has it's advantages.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:04 AM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE