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Ok, headers are a great value based on the $800-900 range, I hate say it but what is up with Callaway charging $1300? Come on, i agree that they offer EPA legal configuration but there is less metal used in a short design than a long tube design.
my headers cost me 1700. You are not getting a complete set and you must factor in other parts. Callaway is cheaper than most because they are shorty. Do more research and you will see. I have a set of LG if you are concerned.
The point you are making about those being more expensive is valid, but do the Calloways come with cats (i.e. your reference to EPA legal)? If so, then they are cheaper than most, as Kooks, which is about the cheapest LT, is $1300+ with cats and O2 extensions. The $8-900 range is for headers only, no cats.
If you are looking at Shortys look at Billy Boat's CARB legal "LT" shorties. Tubes snake around to give more tube length than any other shorty header. I would guess they will also give a little bit more HP than the Callaway
My point is that the Callaway's are $1300 for only the headers, no cats, no x-pipe nothing but the headers. They bolt up to the stock cats and exhaust. Seems like they should be around $600 since they are shorties, i.e. less HP than LT's and less costs to build. Not that I want a set, just seems a bit strange.
Yes you are paying for the Callaway name. Some folks don't have problem with that. I bought Vette Doctors' A. R. Headers and exhaust. All 304 stainless at $1491.00 w/metallic cats. Super investment.
My point is that the Callaway's are $1300 for only the headers, no cats, no x-pipe nothing but the headers. They bolt up to the stock cats and exhaust. Seems like they should be around $600 since they are shorties, i.e. less HP than LT's and less costs to build. Not that I want a set, just seems a bit strange.
You do have a point. Although Callaway build precision product, I can't understand the high price for the shorty's. Lesser hp than the LT's. Sorry, I don't get it.
Yes you are paying for the Callaway name. Some folks don't have problem with that. I bought Vette Doctors' A. R. Headers and exhaust. All 304 stainless at $1491.00 w/metallic cats. Super investment.
Rodney at RPM Transmissions has the vette doctor headers and they look great. They quality and finish are far superior to any that I've seen, and he installed my LG's today. Not to say the LG's are bad in any way, but the vette doctors were phenomenal. Maybe we are paying for a name, but with kook's, dynatech's, LG's, etc, I think it's well worth the $$
You do have a point. Although Callaway build precision product, I can't understand the high price for the shorty's. Lesser hp than the LT's. Sorry, I don't get it.
Since the Callaway shorties are the ONLY CARB legal headers available for the C6 I imagine they had some huge development costs to get certified.
Remember; If you don't have the stock cats in the stock position your headers are illegal for street use.
Illegal where? California? What are you talking about?
CARB (California Air Resource Board) states the stock cats in stock location restriction. CARB restrictions have been adopted by many States and also by many City/County agencies responsible for air quality. Texas major cities now have the same restrictions as California.
CARB (California Air Resource Board) states the stock cats in stock location restriction. CARB restrictions have been adopted by many States and also by many City/County agencies responsible for air quality. Texas major cities now have the same restrictions as California.
I am sorry to hear that for those of you who live in such states. If you have ever been to Louisiana, you know that you have to leave your re-circulation swith on the A/C to avoid having the car in front of you fill the cabin with exhaust smoke. I find it hard to believe that there is a problem with aftermarket cats in this state. I am waiting for the big quake to sweep Cali into the Pacific and then we can do away with the activists.
Search the site. LGs have shown 10-15 more RHWP as reported by members. LGM gives Forum members a 10% discount as well. You have to ask.
10 to 15RWHP over other manufacturers? Bull! Some of LG posted Dyno's showed higher HP only because the person posting neglected to mention that the Dyno was uncorrected or that it also included a tune and/or a CAI . Read the Dyno's with an open mind and you'll realise that there is at most a 1% difference in header output between brands.
Ok, here is the deal, if you buy shorties you are throwing money down the drain, you get immeasurable gain in hp and spend an arm and a leg to get them. If you go with long tubes and cats, you could be sited by the law and fined $10K. I think I am going to stick with the stock manifolds.
Listen mods are mods and if you want to do that you take the risk. 10K would never be given for just headers in NC as far as I know. Some counties in NC dont even have emission test.