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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SA HEAT
If you're 50 years or older it's drone. If you're under 50 it's resonance.
I'm 50 years or older and it's resonance but I call it drone because that's what members on the forum have been calling it.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by VET4LES
I'm 50 years or older and it's resonance but I call it drone because that's what members on the forum have been calling it.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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Drone or "resonance" is like ****. Hard to describe but you'll know it when you hear it.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by achilds
Not to belabor the point, but I don't think intakes have much to do with resonance. The resonant frequency in a pipe is simply the speed of sound divided by twice the length of the pipe, f=Vsound/2*L. The speed of sound is 340 meters/sec. If the exhaust pipe is about a meter then you are looking at something like 170 hz. As a reference concert A is 440 hz, so you are hearing a "note" like a D,E, or F an octave or two below concert A. The higher the amplitude of the standing wave corresponds to more resonance in the cabin. To bad it doesn't sound like a concert.

Interestingly I noticed a difference in the exhaust note and some resonance on a 92 I had when I installed a K&N filter and opened the air intake are on the box. Those were the only things I did. The sound got lower and deffinatley louder.
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
Drone or "resonance" is like ****. Hard to describe but you'll know it when you hear it.
Let me guess - you didn't read all the replies on page one
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Old Apr 5, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Zig
but wouldn't the amount of air being passed though the pipe effect it's resonant frequency ? if a flute player blows whisps of air it will sound one way but if he/she blew a large volume as a burst into the same flute it willl sound different.
That is correct, but what is happening is that the sound waves have a larger amplitude and when the add up constructively at the resonant frequency the note is same but louder. The flute player is changing one of the boundary conditions with the lips and changing the effective length of the pipe, so the note changes slightly.
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Old Apr 6, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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I am going to skip the technical stuff.

DRONE (I had B&B Bullets so I know drone) is a DEEP BASSY HUM that reverberates in your ears and head. It literally feels like pressure, like your head is going to explode. With the Bullets it was a LOUD DEEP BASSY HUM. felt like someone was putting a plunger over my ears and going for all it is worth.

RESONANCE would be when the sound of the car makes the car's interior parts BUZZ.

Do not confuse drone with the mellow hum of a V8, it is two different things.
My new Magnaflow exhaust (although not quite aggressive enough for me) does not drone at all, but it has a smooth and mellow V8 hum at all times, whereas the Bullets DRONED all the time.

Put to a choice, I will tolerate the Magnaflows lack of aggressiveness more than I will tolerate the Bullets drone.
It is always a compromise.
Agressive great sound, loud and droney vs Mellow decent (but not great) sound, not as loud, and smooth.

Howard
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Originally Posted by yell03
I am going to skip the technical stuff.

DRONE (I had B&B Bullets so I know drone) is a DEEP BASSY HUM that reverberates in your ears and head. It literally feels like pressure, like your head is going to explode. With the Bullets it was a LOUD DEEP BASSY HUM. felt like someone was putting a plunger over my ears and going for all it is worth.

RESONANCE would be when the sound of the car makes the car's interior parts BUZZ.

Do not confuse drone with the mellow hum of a V8, it is two different things.
My new Magnaflow exhaust (although not quite aggressive enough for me) does not drone at all, but it has a smooth and mellow V8 hum at all times, whereas the Bullets DRONED all the time.

Put to a choice, I will tolerate the Magnaflows lack of aggressiveness more than I will tolerate the Bullets drone.
It is always a compromise.
Agressive great sound, loud and droney vs Mellow decent (but not great) sound, not as loud, and smooth.

Howard
You may be onto something there with that description...a Hum or a Buzz, that is a good way to separate the two. However, here is a thought; If there is resonance (buzz) being generated by the muffler is the resonance then transferred into the cabin of the car as sound waves that then become the drone (Hum) that is heard inside? The drone will increase in intensity as a load or demand is placed on the motor because the resonance would increase based on exhaust gas flow through the muffler. Now before anyone makes a statement about how do I know it is not the exhaust pipes causing the drone, I can say that I just changed the mufflers on my car and did generate the light drone I now have. One other note on this, I wonder if the body panel material of these cars magnifies this condition?
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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OK Taylor, the old lady is definitely a drone, while the guy ...actually I think the guy is dead.
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