Procharger
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Melting Slicks
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Procharger
C6 Z51. I am all the way leaning to a Procharger.
I would appreciate hearing from other C6 Procharger owners in the forum.
How much was unit and install, any problems, miles you have been using it, etc. \
Many thanks.
I would appreciate hearing from other C6 Procharger owners in the forum.
How much was unit and install, any problems, miles you have been using it, etc. \
Many thanks.
Safety Car
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From: SFV CA
ProCharger P1SC installed at A&A Covette - Parts & labor = $9K turnkey (includes Ca. tax). $550 for boost & fuel gauges installed. Thus far, 4500 miles with no major issues (at one time, I had "reduce engine power" warning when I hit the rev limiter...so far it hasn't happened again).
Don't forget to change the compressor's oil after the first 500 miles and every 6K from then on. Also, recheck the belt tension after the first 100 miles and re-tighten as needed and keep doing this every subsequent 100 miles until you no longer see any slackening; after one or two further tightenings it should stabilize.
I try to avoid strenuous operation while the unit is cold, better to let the engine reach full operating temps before pushing it making sure the compressor bearings and impeller are oiled.
Keep in mind that the D1SC kits are $200 more than the P1SC, upgrading a P1 thru ATI is approx. $1200. If I've known this at the time of my purchase, I would have sprung for the D1 kit....fortunately, Andy has D1s in stock, so we talked about doing a swap. Later down the road, a forged motor & D1SC is a potent 700rwhp combo.
Wait a minute...I thought PI's drive Ferrari's. j/k
Good Luck!
Don't forget to change the compressor's oil after the first 500 miles and every 6K from then on. Also, recheck the belt tension after the first 100 miles and re-tighten as needed and keep doing this every subsequent 100 miles until you no longer see any slackening; after one or two further tightenings it should stabilize.
I try to avoid strenuous operation while the unit is cold, better to let the engine reach full operating temps before pushing it making sure the compressor bearings and impeller are oiled.
Keep in mind that the D1SC kits are $200 more than the P1SC, upgrading a P1 thru ATI is approx. $1200. If I've known this at the time of my purchase, I would have sprung for the D1 kit....fortunately, Andy has D1s in stock, so we talked about doing a swap. Later down the road, a forged motor & D1SC is a potent 700rwhp combo.
Wait a minute...I thought PI's drive Ferrari's. j/k
Good Luck!
Safety Car
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From: Dallas/Valley Ranch TEXAS!!!
Richard brought up some VERY good points @ the D1SC choice... I would strongly suggest listening to his advice... My advice, is only listen to those who actually have a S/Ced C6. Several people in the past chime in on this topic, however most don't have a S/Ced C6 or TT C6, but they'll try to tell you what you should do... My car has the ATI kit, like Richard's, and I'm very happy with my choice... My mods (with more coming) currently have me at 620rwhp @5.5psi using the P1SC kit modified by 21st Century Muscle Cars to my specs... The stock kit should come with high temp silicone couplers, self adjusting clamps, 60lb mototron injectors, and a boost a pump, but it doesn't, so if you want to do it right these are nice additions to consider and there are many more upgrades as well...
Jeremy
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I am completely satisfied with my ProCharger. With ATI I also have KOOKS, X pipe-no cats, Fast intake and Kenne Bell fuel booster. 521 RWHP, my only problem is choosing proper rear wheel and tire. Holding out for 19 " drag radial but can't wait much longer. No doubt you will be pleased.
Safety Car
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From: Rockville Centre NY
C6 Z51 A4 w/Procharger, FAST, Kooks + hi flow cats, GHL exhaust. Even after going to Z06 sized rear tires, the power's just plain scary (which means I love it!).
Other issues: Lots of squeal from belt that came with kit. Switched to Goodyear gatorback belt and updated pulley design with lip on edges so belt won't walk - that made a big difference. Also, get used to your front air dam scraping, as this sits lower after Procharger install (eventually the pavement sands it down for you as you drive it). Make sure they tune it so fans come on earlier, as Procharged cars will run hotter.
Here it is on paper...
Other issues: Lots of squeal from belt that came with kit. Switched to Goodyear gatorback belt and updated pulley design with lip on edges so belt won't walk - that made a big difference. Also, get used to your front air dam scraping, as this sits lower after Procharger install (eventually the pavement sands it down for you as you drive it). Make sure they tune it so fans come on earlier, as Procharged cars will run hotter.
Here it is on paper...
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From: Saint Albans, WV
Originally Posted by c5grandsport
C6 Z51 A4 w/Procharger, FAST, Kooks + hi flow cats, GHL exhaust. Even after going to Z06 sized rear tires, the power's just plain scary (which means I love it!).
Other issues: Lots of squeal from belt that came with kit. Switched to Goodyear gatorback belt and updated pulley design with lip on edges so belt won't walk - that made a big difference. Also, get used to your front air dam scraping, as this sits lower after Procharger install (eventually the pavement sands it down for you as you drive it). Make sure they tune it so fans come on earlier, as Procharged cars will run hotter.
Here it is on paper...
Other issues: Lots of squeal from belt that came with kit. Switched to Goodyear gatorback belt and updated pulley design with lip on edges so belt won't walk - that made a big difference. Also, get used to your front air dam scraping, as this sits lower after Procharger install (eventually the pavement sands it down for you as you drive it). Make sure they tune it so fans come on earlier, as Procharged cars will run hotter.
Here it is on paper...
The air dam is usually trimmed 1/2" to 5/8" by ProCharger installer.
Great numbers by the way.
Last edited by saplumr; May 6, 2006 at 10:16 PM.
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I have an 05 Z51 with an ATI Procharger, Kooks Longtubes ORP with Corsa Sport exhaust. I added a Kenny Bell fuel boost system. A MUST! Don't want the possibility of the motor to run lean. I am running 505RWHP. The great thing is that the system is all bolt on and it costs around 9K. Yes, the front end does ride a little lower, but like the previous post, the installer should trim the bottom lip about a 1/2 inch or so. Wow what an upgrade
Melting Slicks
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From: Miami FL
What About Resale?
How badly is your resale value going to be hurt by having done these mods? Or do you think you'll get the typical Blue Book value [I]plus[I] something extra for the mods? It seems to me that heavily modified sports cars lose not only the value of the mods themselves, but also get more heavily depreciated because of the perceived "abuse". Care to weigh-in on this subject for a ProCharger wannabe?
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11
If a major well known tuner did the install, I cant tell you that you will get more than book value. In the case of an S/C, I have seen the kits sell used for 75% of their original cost so returning the car back to stock and selling it that way will be an option. Putting the car up for sale in the forum section is also good if you are well known and had the work done by a forum tuner.
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From: Saint Albans, WV
Originally Posted by C6Jeff
How badly is your resale value going to be hurt by having done these mods? Or do you think you'll get the typical Blue Book value [I]plus[I] something extra for the mods? It seems to me that heavily modified sports cars lose not only the value of the mods themselves, but also get more heavily depreciated because of the perceived "abuse". Care to weigh-in on this subject for a ProCharger wannabe?
I installed the ProCharger and other mods because I wanted them. I couldn't care less about resale value. You should make the car what YOU want. So.....GO FOR IT!
Melting Slicks
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From: Miami FL
Originally Posted by saplumr
I installed the ProCharger and other mods because I wanted them. I couldn't care less about resale value. You should make the car what YOU want. So.....GO FOR IT!
Safety Car
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From: Rockville Centre NY
Originally Posted by C6Jeff
How badly is your resale value going to be hurt by having done these mods?
Be worried about resale
oh, no, resale resale resale! Or Choice #2:
Leave clouds of tire smoke and love your car every minute you're in it without worrying what some other guy might pay for it years from now...
Burning Brakes
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From: Bloomingdale IL
Originally Posted by saplumr
I am completely satisfied with my ProCharger. With ATI I also have KOOKS, X pipe-no cats, Fast intake and Kenne Bell fuel booster. 521 RWHP, my only problem is choosing proper rear wheel and tire. Holding out for 19 " drag radial but can't wait much longer. No doubt you will be pleased.
Our current F1 EMT are a 360 tread count. The Yokahama Advan is a Almost identical size tire with a 180 tread count. THis means it is way softer than our stock tires. I just did a Procharger last week and love it. I will be getting tha Advan's.
Safety Car
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From: SFV CA
Originally Posted by LOS ANGELES PI
C6 Z51. I am all the way leaning to a Procharger.
I would appreciate hearing from other C6 Procharger owners in the forum.
How much was unit and install, any problems, miles you have been using it, etc. \
Many thanks.
I would appreciate hearing from other C6 Procharger owners in the forum.
How much was unit and install, any problems, miles you have been using it, etc. \
Many thanks.
Thanks!
Richard
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From: Kennewick WA
07 On Order - SC Questions
My 07 is on order.
I want to put on one of the SCs but I don't want to change anything else.
This is a GT car so I like it quiet.
How much noise do you get from the SC when cruising?
If you guys with an SC can ever keep it mellow - what mpg do you get?
I have looked at the kits out there but typically there are components in a kit that may not be the best or other items that you "should" get with a SC. I think a boost pump is a must and probably guages.
I am concerned about the tune. How can a simple flash re-tune work for all the different injectors, exhausts, etc? What does it really take to tune a C6.
Is there a shop in Oregon, Washington, or Colorado that can do the work?
I want to get this stuff lined up.
I want to put on one of the SCs but I don't want to change anything else.
This is a GT car so I like it quiet.
How much noise do you get from the SC when cruising?
If you guys with an SC can ever keep it mellow - what mpg do you get?
I have looked at the kits out there but typically there are components in a kit that may not be the best or other items that you "should" get with a SC. I think a boost pump is a must and probably guages.
I am concerned about the tune. How can a simple flash re-tune work for all the different injectors, exhausts, etc? What does it really take to tune a C6.
Is there a shop in Oregon, Washington, or Colorado that can do the work?
I want to get this stuff lined up.
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From: Saint Albans, WV
You can detect a slight whine at low RPM, but when I hit the go fast pedal all you're gonna hear is KOOKS and Corsa. I also had to install Kenne Bell fuel booster. The ProCharger comes with it's own tune. At 521 RWHP and 491 RWT I am averaging 18.5 mpg city as long as I drive sensible, (I avoid interstate driving to keep down paint chipping) however with the larger fuel injectors if you use much pedal it can drop quickly. I installed electric fuel and boost gauges with A-pillar pod, but you can install cheaper mechanical boost. I would suggest purchasing ProCharger 3 year warranty, which includes enough supercharger oil for 6 changes at a mear $49.00. Good luck.