Dynatech -vs- LG Pro's
Instructor
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From: Shelburne Vermont
Just installed my set of LG's yesterday. Quality and fit we excellent. Had them Jet coated and wow. I will tell you that if something ever was missing, by dealing with the OWNER, he WILL make it BETTER than right. As they say, if you want the real thing then buy the real thing. If I wanted a knock-off, I would have bought a kit car...
There, that 'otta add a few sticks to this fire.... lol
There, that 'otta add a few sticks to this fire.... lol
Race Director
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From: Austin Texas
Originally Posted by SERENITY_NOW
Just installed my set of LG's yesterday. Quality and fit we excellent. Had them Jet coated and wow. I will tell you that if something ever was missing, by dealing with the OWNER, he WILL make it BETTER than right. As they say, if you want the real thing then buy the real thing. If I wanted a knock-off, I would have bought a kit car...
There, that 'otta add a few sticks to this fire.... lol
There, that 'otta add a few sticks to this fire.... lol
Racer
Joined: Nov 2005
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From: Midland Texas
Originally Posted by haljensen
LG doesn't manufacture their exhaust, they're not the "owner", they're the retailer.
Not true! LG did all the R&D in house and designed the header. LG is a race and tuning shop, not an exhaust pipe manufacturing shop so they have Borla build them to their specifications. They say LG Pro Long Tube Headers for a reason!
Race Director
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From: Austin Texas
Originally Posted by SlickBlackVette
so they have Borla build them to their specifications.
Borla makes a profit and LG makes a profit.
Drifting
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From: Fresno CA
Originally Posted by Fore58
Is there a website for Jegs?
Check the forum dealers links bottom left side of the page...
Here's my thoughts on the whole debate. I heard lots of good things about both of these headers, yes the LG's probably make a hair more power and torque than the DT's. I paid $1205 shipped for my DT's so I probably saved over $400 over the LG complete kit with cats maybe more with shipping.I can live with this small loss for the cash I saved. The prices on these are complete bullsh!t, all Vette headers, we are paying more because they go on a Vette. My 05 A4 with 2:73 gears and DT headers just went 11.90's last weekend, Iam happy with my choice and the CASH I saved payed for my Vararam! The DT headers are THE best quality headers I have ever installed on any of my vehicles, they are top notch. I have never seen or installed the LG headers so I dont have first hand experience on their quality but Iam sure they are top notch too. Iam happy with my choice, I love my car!
Le Mans Master
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From: Tampa Florida
Originally Posted by Cucchiara
Check the forum dealers links bottom left side of the page...
Here's my thoughts on the whole debate. I heard lots of good things about both of these headers, yes the LG's probably make a hair more power and torque than the DT's. I paid $1205 shipped for my DT's so I probably saved over $400 over the LG complete kit with cats maybe more with shipping.I can live with this small loss for the cash I saved. The prices on these are complete bullsh!t, all Vette headers, we are paying more because they go on a Vette. My 05 A4 with 2:73 gears and DT headers just went 11.90's last weekend, Iam happy with my choice and the CASH I saved payed for my Vararam! The DT headers are THE best quality headers I have ever installed on any of my vehicles, they are top notch. I have never seen or installed the LG headers so I dont have first hand experience on their quality but Iam sure they are top notch too. Iam happy with my choice, I love my car!
Here's my thoughts on the whole debate. I heard lots of good things about both of these headers, yes the LG's probably make a hair more power and torque than the DT's. I paid $1205 shipped for my DT's so I probably saved over $400 over the LG complete kit with cats maybe more with shipping.I can live with this small loss for the cash I saved. The prices on these are complete bullsh!t, all Vette headers, we are paying more because they go on a Vette. My 05 A4 with 2:73 gears and DT headers just went 11.90's last weekend, Iam happy with my choice and the CASH I saved payed for my Vararam! The DT headers are THE best quality headers I have ever installed on any of my vehicles, they are top notch. I have never seen or installed the LG headers so I dont have first hand experience on their quality but Iam sure they are top notch too. Iam happy with my choice, I love my car!
I wish there were many more members on this forum that are very informative about a particular product. Because all I hear about is "Kook and LG's. What about the other manufacturers that willing to give the Vette owners a reasonalbe price? And, you are 100% right. Why pay $400 more for hp that you won't even feel (SOTP). Your ET speaks for itself. I have seen LG's full system but I do not know what top notch suppose to look like in comparison. On top of that, I could get the DT headers jet coated locally for a reasonable fee. I could do several more things to my C6 with an extra $400 in my hands. I have done several inquiries about this header to forum members and they replied with very good results. The information you provided would probably give a few of us second thoughts. Nice 11 second run.
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Instructor
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From: Shelburne Vermont
Originally Posted by haljensen
LG doesn't manufacture their exhaust, they're not the "owner", they're the retailer.
A few more logs for the fire.
Burning Brakes
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From: Niceville Florida
Originally Posted by SERENITY_NOW
Now what are your thoughts about buying your C6 from GM? Are they the OWNER? How about are they the manufacturer? Wait, who made all the parts for your car?
A few more logs for the fire.
A few more logs for the fire.
I'm VERY happy with the LG headers and cats on my C6Z06. LG Motorsports was a pleasure to work with.
Last edited by Mike Z06; Jun 10, 2006 at 12:26 AM.
Racer
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From: Rancho Santa Margarita CA
Originally Posted by haljensen
I have the 1.875" Dynatechs also, very complete kit with nothing missing and excellent instructions. $1400 delivered to my door from a Tbyrne Group Buy.
Dyno's don't lie and the Dynatech 1.875" and LG 1.75" will dyno within a couple of HP of each other. I never read a post on this Forum of missing bolts or gaskets with Dynatech but have seen a few complaining about missing parts with LG's.
Dyno's don't lie and the Dynatech 1.875" and LG 1.75" will dyno within a couple of HP of each other. I never read a post on this Forum of missing bolts or gaskets with Dynatech but have seen a few complaining about missing parts with LG's.
It seems that one must way the concerns of missing bolts and instructions vs. more torgue.
Race Director
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From: Austin Texas
Originally Posted by SERENITY_NOW
Hmmm, I don't remember saying he built them....he was probably racing his OWN product on the track. What I said was that I can speak personally, anytime, to the designer, tester, and OWNER of the company that I bought them from. I suppose you can say that about Jeg's. And LGM offers a 10% discount to forum members, and they carry a million mile warranty. And, as you admitted, they are the best. Now what are your thoughts about buying your C6 from GM? Are they the OWNER? How about are they the manufacturer? Wait, who made all the parts for your car?
A few more logs for the fire.
A few more logs for the fire.
I definitely never said "they are the best". And yes, GM owns the plant that makes Corvettes and until the Dealer buys the car from GM they are the owner.
In simple terms; Borla owns the headers until LGM buys them and then sells them to you. GM owns the car until the Dealer buys it and sells it to you. LGM is a retailer, just like the Chevy dealer and just like Jegs (but higher priced).
Le Mans Master
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From: Chandler Arizona
Originally Posted by haljensen
You are almost as skilled at double talk as Lou at LGM. LGM does not own the manufacturer, Borla.
I definitely never said "they are the best". And yes, GM owns the plant that makes Corvettes and until the Dealer buys the car from GM they are the owner.
In simple terms; Borla owns the headers until LGM buys them and then sells them to you. GM owns the car until the Dealer buys it and sells it to you. LGM is a retailer, just like the Chevy dealer and just like Jegs (but higher priced).
I definitely never said "they are the best". And yes, GM owns the plant that makes Corvettes and until the Dealer buys the car from GM they are the owner.
In simple terms; Borla owns the headers until LGM buys them and then sells them to you. GM owns the car until the Dealer buys it and sells it to you. LGM is a retailer, just like the Chevy dealer and just like Jegs (but higher priced).
Instructor
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From: Shelburne Vermont
Originally Posted by haljensen
You are almost as skilled at double talk as Lou at LGM. LGM does not own the manufacturer, Borla.
I definitely never said "they are the best". And yes, GM owns the plant that makes Corvettes and until the Dealer buys the car from GM they are the owner.
In simple terms; Borla owns the headers until LGM buys them and then sells them to you. GM owns the car until the Dealer buys it and sells it to you. LGM is a retailer, just like the Chevy dealer and just like Jegs (but higher priced).
I definitely never said "they are the best". And yes, GM owns the plant that makes Corvettes and until the Dealer buys the car from GM they are the owner.
In simple terms; Borla owns the headers until LGM buys them and then sells them to you. GM owns the car until the Dealer buys it and sells it to you. LGM is a retailer, just like the Chevy dealer and just like Jegs (but higher priced).
Racer
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Louisville Kentucky
I have Dynatech headers and I am perfectly happy with them. They are very high quality and easy to install. There have been dyno graphs on this forum that show significant power and torque increases with them. You can do a search and find them. There are also guys who run them and turn very good quarter-mile times. Just look at the post above about this. All that said, a 1 3/4 inch primary is a better size for a 6-liter engine with stock LS2 heads. There is some science behind this but I'll leave that to others more qualified.
If I were shopping today and Dynatech made a set in 1 3/4 inch, I'd buy them with no further research. If they didn't, I'd buy the LG. When I had mine installed back in April 2005, LG's were not available. I was not willing to wait and I have no regrets. My car is definitely not short on low-end torque or any other kind.
If I were shopping today and Dynatech made a set in 1 3/4 inch, I'd buy them with no further research. If they didn't, I'd buy the LG. When I had mine installed back in April 2005, LG's were not available. I was not willing to wait and I have no regrets. My car is definitely not short on low-end torque or any other kind.
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From: Dallas Tx
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Originally Posted by haljensen
You are almost as skilled at double talk as Lou at LGM. LGM does not own the manufacturer, Borla.
I definitely never said "they are the best". And yes, GM owns the plant that makes Corvettes and until the Dealer buys the car from GM they are the owner.
In simple terms; Borla owns the headers until LGM buys them and then sells them to you. GM owns the car until the Dealer buys it and sells it to you. LGM is a retailer, just like the Chevy dealer and just like Jegs (but higher priced).
I definitely never said "they are the best". And yes, GM owns the plant that makes Corvettes and until the Dealer buys the car from GM they are the owner.
In simple terms; Borla owns the headers until LGM buys them and then sells them to you. GM owns the car until the Dealer buys it and sells it to you. LGM is a retailer, just like the Chevy dealer and just like Jegs (but higher priced).
Wow hal,
I am really not sure what LGM ever did to you but here is the real deal.
LGM built the original LG Pro Long Tube headers. We had STainless Works build the primary tubes for 70 sets over 18 months. the cost for this and for the Merge Collectors was so high, we had to sell the headers for over $2500 a set. And back then, there were ONLY TPIS headers available. that is why we built our headers in the first place.
Since we were the largest F body Borla dealer in the country for a long time, we worked a deal out with them to build OUR LG headers for US exclusively.
I am sure that you know what the word "exclusively" means, and that is that LG Motorsports owns the "Design" and Borla has agreed to build them for us and only us.
So LG Motorsports owns the design, and of course, not until I give them a Purchase Order, do I own the headers.
That is like GM owning the design of a part that they sub out and the supplier can not sell the part to anyone else because it is "exclusively" owned by GM.
I hope that makes things a little more clear for you.
Some day You will have to tell me in private what LGM did to make you rail against us at every opportunity.
Thanks guys,
Lou Gigliotti LGM
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Lou,
I live in so-cal and every April when you raced at Long Beach, I would pull all 4 of my boys out of school so we could watch practice on Friday
I wrote down that we had an appointment with a "DR. Gigliotti" The school's secretary smiled and said to say hi to you!
I hate people that copy everyone else and will be running a set soon
I live in so-cal and every April when you raced at Long Beach, I would pull all 4 of my boys out of school so we could watch practice on Friday
I wrote down that we had an appointment with a "DR. Gigliotti" The school's secretary smiled and said to say hi to you!
I hate people that copy everyone else and will be running a set soon
Racer
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From: Sachse TX
Lou uses his header design on his world challenge race car and right now he is in 2nd place in points for the season. He's led every race so far this year. Bottom line, Lou knows how to get every last bit of HP out of his cars.
If I'm going to modify my car, I want the best "go fast" parts or I'm not going to waste my time doing it. Lou's headers have proved they are worth it to me.
If I'm going to modify my car, I want the best "go fast" parts or I'm not going to waste my time doing it. Lou's headers have proved they are worth it to me.
Last edited by NeedaC6; Jun 10, 2006 at 11:43 AM.
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Racer
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From: Pittsburgh,Bradenton PA,FL
Since I started this mess, maybe I can finish it. Just like many of you, I have many mods I'm interested in and the extra $200 would have gone towards them. Life's to short, grab a beer and forget about this one. Lou, sorry for all the hassle. P.S. When I order the headers - they will be LG Pro's.