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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 02:24 AM
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RBYCC, you MUST be mentally challenged. You have to be.

1. I never, ever said I wanted a CVT in my car. I never said that. As matter of fact, I said the exact opposite. Well here, I'll give you a hand:
Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
But on a paved road, the ultimate transmission (which is already here in several car models) is nothing but BOOOOOORING. BUT...it IS the most "technologically advanced"! Do you still want it?
Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
I sure as hell don't advocate a CVT an any sports car. I think that would be boring and extremely lame.
Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
I don't ever want a sports car w/a CVT; BORING.
So why are you putting words in my mouth?? You said:
Originally Posted by RBYCC
Stand by it all you want, enjoy the CVT in your snowmobile...Soooooooo I agree the "love of your life" CVT....Go in peace....enjoy the hum of the CVT as it infinitely takes you to the land of boredom
Did you even READ what I wrote? Or did you just have an uncontrolled hemorage out of your mouth? I never, ever said I wanted a CVT in my Corvette. I used it as an example of an extension of today's technology, and the possible future, which IMO would be boring if it were CVT's in sports cars. It was an example -a tool used to make a point. Can you understand that RB?

2. I do have a Corvette. Pics are here:
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/at...achmentid=9267
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/at...achmentid=9268
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/at...achmentid=9265
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/at...achmentid=9266
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=8495
...thanks for second guessing that though. Nice one.

3. This is going to be strong so make sure your diapers are on securely; I've turned off all my TC/AH. I've reved it up to 5k. I've dumped the clutch and done a 150' burn. It wasn't scary...at all. I did another in the wet in a parking lot. Nice, long 200' sideways, into a quick 360*, came out of that sideways going the original direction...exactly as I wanted. That wasn't scary either. It was what I wanted, and part of the reason why I bought a stick. Compared to the other **** I do in my life, that just ain't something to be scared of. If you're scared of doing a burn out in a 400 hp car, you are a *****. Yes, I just said that; a *****. BTW, my previous car was 400+ hp Camaro w/a 6 speed. It had a 800 CFM carburetor and a mechanically advanced distributor. If you even know what those items are, then you also know that the car had ZERO "drivers aids" such as TC/AH, ABS, auto anything. I wasn't "scared" of that car either, and your argument of "today's high performance vehicle is beyond the brain/ motor capabilities of most human beings" apparently doens't seem to apply. At least not here. You're preaching to someone who isn't hearing what you're saying. 400 hp is nothing to be afraid of. It's O.K., trust me.

4. The manual trans is ultimately faster than the auto all other things being equal, w/a good driver the M6 is faster. I need to break it down for you (again, I did it earlier in this thread). 60', 0-60, 1/4 mile. The "deal breaker is NOT "solely in the hands of the driver." If the best driver ran an M6 and then an A6, the M6 would be faster. This is the 4th time I've posted virtually the exact same sentence. Maybe some day you'll actually read what you're reading.

Why are you arguing this stuff? The manufacturer claims faster times for the M6. Our own forum has shown which is the fastest stock and close to stock.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...&postcount=731

For the fourth time; the original poster asked:
"Does anyone know the 0-60 performance difference between the 2 transmissions with the Z51 package."

Answer: the M6 is faster by 1-2 tenths. End of thread.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
RBYCC, you MUST be mentally challenged. You have to be.
Dude, may I call you dude, as it seems toi be one of your favorite juvenile salutations?

The original post was a query about the "performance" differences between the A6 and MN6. Performance is not just in a straight line.
Focus on that point...and with that knowledge the transmission may make one initially accelerate a bit faster, but it doesn't make it go thru a corner any quicker. Power is equal and the day to day performance difference is not noticeable.

If I appear to be "mentally challenged", it's only because I'm attemptimg to communicate with one as you who has a fixation with something that has naught to do with the topic at hand.
You brought to the "table" CVT's and "snowmobiles", not I.

My comments were on the "state of the art" being 5,6,7 speed automatics and computer controlled manuals.

This is not an opinion, it is a fact.

Communication with one who doesn't understand the obvious reality is futile...

Continuing resorting to name calling as you have to myself and others on this thread as is a true indication of your character and lack of maturity!!!

Instead of impressing your peers with parking lot burnouts why not track your car....put it on a circuit like Lime Rock or Road Atlanta, go to the Spring Mountain drivers school, and see how some who you deem a "*****" are more men then you are. !!

So go in peace, take the last word if it elevates your fragile ego, as you need to be "right".

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RBYCC
The original post was a query about the "performance" differences between the A6 and MN6. Performance is not just in a straight line.
I think we can all agree the OP was talking about straight line acceleration. You know what? Why don't we just go take a quick look, shall we?...
Originally Posted by Lionheart
There's a lot here about personal preferences between the C6 transmissions. I want to get technical. Does anyone know the 0-60 performance difference between the 2 transmissions with the Z51 package.
Well, there you have it. Pretty clear cut question I would say. That is also certainly where the conversation headed for the first two pages of this thread, so that is what I was addressing and sticking to. You're just throwing in the "road course" in a feable attempt to save some type of face and appear right about something. Honestly it just comes across as desperate and rather pathetic.

About my burn out, you said...
Originally Posted by RBYCC
[COLOR="Blue"]Instead of impressing your peers with parking lot burnouts why not track your car....put it on a circuit like Lime Rock or Road Atlanta, go to the Spring Mountain drivers school, and see how some who you deem a "*****" are more men then you are. !
When I talked about my burn out(s), I was simply responding to what YOU said earlier:
Originally Posted by RBYCC
If you own a C6 ( do you???? ), then just switch off your AH/TC, and if it's a manual....then bring your revs to 5000 and pop the clutch....Very scary.....................even for an experienced driver
In that quote, you implied that
1. I don't have a Corvette
2. I've never done a burn out in a powerful car
3. That doing so is "scary"

You were 100%, wrong on all three counts, as you have been about most of what you have posted on this thread.

In fact, I do track my car; SCCA solo2, Drag strip, and LHM Motor Sports Park. I'll admit, I won't be going to Road Atlanta or Lime Rock; they're over 2000 miles away so if you could cut me a little slack on those, that'd be nice. The burn outs were for my entertainment and MINE alone, as there was no one there to watch, as you stated (you were wrong about that too). I only brought up the two to rebut your implying that I've no idea how "scary" a burn out is in a powerful car. Oh my goodness, you were wrong about that too!

BTW, You can appologize for implying that I don't own a Corvette any time now, thank you very much.

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Campbell
I must admit that after getting an A6 I miss shifting like I had in my 99. However, that said, the auto's are more consistant. I could outshift an auto. And bone stock the M6 is faster. But, it's not as consistant. And when I got the A6 I didn't have to put in a CAGs switch, and a short throw shifter...and my sweetie can drive it if she has too. All good reasons. I personally miss being able to snap alittle rubber between shifts. But I don't miss the smell of a burnt clutch...
I don't know how many miles you have on your A6, Mine has 4,000 and if you paddle-shift from 1st. to 2nd. at 5,000 rpms you will definetly leave some of your Goodyears on the street and I am sure when they get some tuning on the A6 software many will be amazed at the performance.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
RBYCC, you MUST be mentally challenged. You have to be.

1. I never, ever said I wanted a CVT in my car. I never said that. As matter of fact, I said the exact opposite. Well here, I'll give you a hand:



So why are you putting words in my mouth?? You said:

Did you even READ what I wrote? Or did you just have an uncontrolled hemorage out of your mouth? I never, ever said I wanted a CVT in my Corvette. I used it as an example of an extension of today's technology, and the possible future, which IMO would be boring if it were CVT's in sports cars. It was an example -a tool used to make a point. Can you understand that RB?

2. I do have a Corvette. Pics are here:
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/at...achmentid=9267
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/at...achmentid=9268
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/at...achmentid=9265
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/at...achmentid=9266
http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=8495
...thanks for second guessing that though. Nice one.

3. This is going to be strong so make sure your diapers are on securely; I've turned off all my TC/AH. I've reved it up to 5k. I've dumped the clutch and done a 150' burn. It wasn't scary...at all. I did another in the wet in a parking lot. Nice, long 200' sideways, into a quick 360*, came out of that sideways going the original direction...exactly as I wanted. That wasn't scary either. It was what I wanted, and part of the reason why I bought a stick. Compared to the other **** I do in my life, that just ain't something to be scared of. If you're scared of doing a burn out in a 400 hp car, you are a *****. Yes, I just said that; a *****. BTW, my previous car was 400+ hp Camaro w/a 6 speed. It had a 800 CFM carburetor and a mechanically advanced distributor. If you even know what those items are, then you also know that the car had ZERO "drivers aids" such as TC/AH, ABS, auto anything. I wasn't "scared" of that car either, and your argument of "today's high performance vehicle is beyond the brain/ motor capabilities of most human beings" apparently doens't seem to apply. At least not here. You're preaching to someone who isn't hearing what you're saying. 400 hp is nothing to be afraid of. It's O.K., trust me.

4. The manual trans is ultimately faster than the auto all other things being equal, w/a good driver the M6 is faster. I need to break it down for you (again, I did it earlier in this thread). 60', 0-60, 1/4 mile. The "deal breaker is NOT "solely in the hands of the driver." If the best driver ran an M6 and then an A6, the M6 would be faster. This is the 4th time I've posted virtually the exact same sentence. Maybe some day you'll actually read what you're reading..
You really need to relax man. Let the top down on your ride and just drive the streets for a minute man. Your upset. I dont agree with you on many points. But even if I did you get your point across because your so upset. Cool Down
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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I think my points are very clearly written. No?

You're right that I am aggravated with RBYCC and his tactics. I do need to chill out. Here's my last post on this thread:

OP:
Originally Posted by Lionheart
There's a lot here about personal preferences between the C6 transmissions. I want to get technical. Does anyone know the 0-60 performance difference between the 2 transmissions with the Z51 package.
Thanks!
Since straight line acceleration is what we're addressing, here's the answer:
Originally Posted by fergy flyer
From what I've been able to gather, about 1 tenth in 0-60 and 1-2 tenths in 1/4 mile time. The MN6 is faster the A6 as usual is more consistant.
Originally Posted by MPe488
In the 0-60 you only have to shfit once, and I would think a decent M6 driver that could hook would have an advantage over the A6 in a 0-60 situation.
Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
...the original poster asked:
"Does anyone know the 0-60 performance difference between the 2 transmissions with the Z51 package."

Answer: the M6 is faster by 1-2 tenths.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...&postcount=731
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