SLP BlackWing or Halltech Stinger?
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Racer
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From: SEAFORD NY
SLP BlackWing or Halltech Stinger?
I 've had the Blackwing on my 02/mn6. Now I purchased on 07/mn6. I have no complaints about the blackwing. I wanted some opinions from the forum, on which is the better air intake; halltech or blackwing?
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From: Lakewood Ranch, FL
I had a BW on my C5. I have also read some pretty convincing comments that the OEM on the C6 is so good that the necessity for aftermarket is limited. I will keep the stock filter and put my upgrade dollars to use elsewhere - unless I read some more that changes my opinion... In that case I will use LPE or Callaway. (How's that for non specific
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From: Bradenton FL
Callaway Honker! I have, my two brothers have it, and tuner shop owner has it aslo. 7-10 hp gain on dyno, fit and finish exellent. Do worry about getting water in, I drove thru heavy, and i mean pouring rain, last week in Fl, no problem. Of course I didn't drive thru puddles, just on highway.
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K&N Aircharger exactly the same thing as other 2. I went with it because: 1> I trust K&N's quality; 2> I didn't want to cut into the radiator shroud. Its purpose is routing cool air to the radiator and I prefer to leave it as designed; 3> the BW and H'tech are identical in almost every respect to the K&N, and the K&N was $318 shipped--better pricing than the others. I like it, notice a sop increase with only it and Bullets my only mod, and know it will last as long as I own the car. Quality piece.
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From: Hudson WI
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Originally Posted by Whiterock1
K&N Aircharger exactly the same thing as other 2. I went with it because: 1> I trust K&N's quality; 2> I didn't want to cut into the radiator shroud. Its purpose is routing cool air to the radiator and I prefer to leave it as designed; 3> the BW and H'tech are identical in almost every respect to the K&N, and the K&N was $318 shipped--better pricing than the others. I like it, notice a sop increase with only it and Bullets my only mod, and know it will last as long as I own the car. Quality piece.
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From: Toms River NJ
There is no cutting involved with the SLP Blackwimg pkg. My car piced up 11.5 hp. I was told it is more common to see 5 to 8 hp.
http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...16&BIG=21116-1
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From: VA
Originally Posted by VETFOR4
There is no cutting involved with the SLP Blackwimg pkg. My car piced up 11.5 hp. I was told it is more common to see 5 to 8 hp.
http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...16&BIG=21116-1
http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...16&BIG=21116-1
W/ the hood up yes. Close the hood and if the car is hot it will be the same as stock. Most people dyno w/ the hood open and can claim an increase. close it and all the newfound power goes away. Do a search and see for yourself.
The 2 main cold air intakes that pick up consistent power w/ the hood closed are the Honker and the LPE. I don`t know about you but I drive and race w/ my hood closed.
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Originally Posted by GMRULZ
W/ the hood up yes. Close the hood and if the car is hot it will be the same as stock. Most people dyno w/ the hood open and can claim an increase. close it and all the newfound power goes away. Do a search and see for yourself.
The 2 main cold air intakes that pick up consistent power w/ the hood closed are the Honker and the LPE. I don`t know about you but I drive and race w/ my hood closed.
The 2 main cold air intakes that pick up consistent power w/ the hood closed are the Honker and the LPE. I don`t know about you but I drive and race w/ my hood closed.
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From: queensbury ny
BW and some others
There was a test of the BLACKWING and some other filter done on tv or in one of the maga's, A YEAR OR TWO AGO, and the results were spectacular!!!UNTIL THE ENGINE BAY WARMED UP THAT IS!!Initially a 19 HP gain was achieved.Than,after it got hot under there...zippo,nada,nothing!!!No gain at all,and 1 filter actually lost a hp or 2!!
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From: VA
Originally Posted by Whiterock1
Not so sure. When you close the hood, it more or less seals off the front of the radiator (shroud) and the Aircharger from the actual engine compartment. That portion is going to be much cooler--especially underway, because it gets cool air from the openings to the underside of the car with hot air from the engine effectively blocked. The sealing effect appears to me to be pretty good, and that side of the shroud is going to be thermally better because there is ambient air on the other side being pulled into the engine compartment--not heat going the other way. This is of course true with any air filter in that area, but the K&N, BW and Halltech have much larger swept areas than stock, so it is logical to assume greatly increased airflow.
All I can say is I garauntee you if you dyno a totally stock C6 , first w/ a Halltech, Blackwing or K&N and then dyno a Honker or LPE both dynoed w/ the hood closed , the Honker and LPE win everytime. you can take that to the bank. If you don`t beleive me pm some of the supporting tuners and let them tell you.
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Cai
Having had 5 vette's now,I've learned a little,little by little!!I can achieve just as good results by keeping my stock induction setup and cutting a hole in the shroud and flipping the filters upside down...and I can do it for alot less than 300-400 bucks!!I learned if I want real power,get headers,cam or supercharger and be done with it!!BUT that's just me!!
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From: Between a rock and a hard place, S.E. PA
Originally Posted by GMRULZ
W/ the hood up yes. Close the hood and if the car is hot it will be the same as stock. Most people dyno w/ the hood open and can claim an increase. close it and all the newfound power goes away. Do a search and see for yourself.
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I think the Halltech, Blackwing, and K&N aircharger are all pretty much the same.
I did the K&N because it was only $282.78 shipped NEW.
Install took 15 minutes and was VERY EASY only requiring a 10mm wrench and a flat blade screwdriver. My type of install
As for cold air, I thought about the Halltech Cold air mod for $129, but instead I had my buddy grab his air drill and 1/2" drill bit and drill approximately 8 holes on each side in the fascia for free.
You can't see the holes and now the car gets ambient air to the filter FOR FREE (my type of price).
Howard
I did the K&N because it was only $282.78 shipped NEW.
Install took 15 minutes and was VERY EASY only requiring a 10mm wrench and a flat blade screwdriver. My type of install
As for cold air, I thought about the Halltech Cold air mod for $129, but instead I had my buddy grab his air drill and 1/2" drill bit and drill approximately 8 holes on each side in the fascia for free.
You can't see the holes and now the car gets ambient air to the filter FOR FREE (my type of price).
Howard
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From: Rehoboth Beach Delaware
Originally Posted by yell03
You can't see the holes and now the car gets ambient air to the filter FOR FREE (my type of price).
Howard
Howard
Not only are you lazy, but admittingly cheap
I should talk...I bought my SLP BW from ZIP Products for $220.00 delivered. It was a "take off" from a customers car that was "taken off" before it left their shop !!!!
Agree not much difference between Halltech, SLP, or K&N as far as design and technology....buy the least expensive
Ed A.
