Does this sound like a active handling error?
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Does this sound like a active handling error?
Took a drive out to the hill country today and had the active handling kick in twice on down hill high speed right hand sweepers. I was running about 85-90mph with no signs of traction problems and the car started studdering. I was like what the - came off the gas the car settled down and I ignored it. The next time it happened, I looked down and saw the display showing the active handling message. I was not even pushing the car at all. Felt like I could have been going 15-20 mph faster without breaking a sweat.
I have upgraded suspension components (C6z06 sways / springs) and have a lot of rubber on the ground (275-front / 345-rear). Other than that, the car handled flawlessly. Highly recommend the suspension upgrade.
Could the sensors have a max g-rating that was ofercome, regarless of actual traction?
I have upgraded suspension components (C6z06 sways / springs) and have a lot of rubber on the ground (275-front / 345-rear). Other than that, the car handled flawlessly. Highly recommend the suspension upgrade.
Could the sensors have a max g-rating that was ofercome, regarless of actual traction?
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Originally Posted by john_sblendorio
Took a drive out to the hill country today and had the active handling kick in twice on down hill high speed right hand sweepers. I was running about 85-90mph with no signs of traction problems and the car started studdering. I was like what the - came off the gas the car settled down and I ignored it. The next time it happened, I looked down and saw the display showing the active handling message. I was not even pushing the car at all. Felt like I could have been going 15-20 mph faster without breaking a sweat.
I have upgraded suspension components (C6z06 sways / springs) and have a lot of rubber on the ground (275-front / 345-rear). Other than that, the car handled flawlessly. Highly recommend the suspension upgrade.
Could the sensors have a max g-rating that was ofercome, regarless of actual traction?
I have upgraded suspension components (C6z06 sways / springs) and have a lot of rubber on the ground (275-front / 345-rear). Other than that, the car handled flawlessly. Highly recommend the suspension upgrade.
Could the sensors have a max g-rating that was ofercome, regarless of actual traction?
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It might be interesting if you test your car on the same road in "Comp Mode". The AH is supposed to be less sensitive in this mode. The couple times my AH kicked in I was in "Comp Mode" and I could feel the brakes working and I would say the car was just about to turn around.
You are talking about AH and not TC?
You are talking about AH and not TC?
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From: Central Florida
Originally Posted by john_sblendorio
I was running in with the standard settings. Left everything on.
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Agreed - I will not drive without the sensors on. I am not racing and they saved my *** a few times. I just found it strange that either I outdrove the sensors or the car's set up is better than the sensors baseline or lastly there is a problem with the sensors.
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Sounds normal to me. At the track I start the day with everything on as I warm up. Within a couple laps AH starts coming on all the time even though it seems like there's no reason to.
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AH, TM, TC - turn it all off. The car feel is so much safer and more stable without them, you can feel what it does. Just be sensible. If you really can't resist the gas, better use the trailer wheels.
The only unpredictable element is brake lock up, therefore keep that on. That might be due to the tires, or brakes, I don't know. Try it both ways and see.
The only unpredictable element is brake lock up, therefore keep that on. That might be due to the tires, or brakes, I don't know. Try it both ways and see.
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Originally Posted by kelp
AH, TM, TC - turn it all off. The car feel is so much safer and more stable without them...The only unpredictable element is brake lock up, therefore keep that on. That might be due to the tires, or brakes, I don't know. Try it both ways and see.
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Based on my track experience with the c6 the AH is very unpredictable. I always ran the c5 in comp mode but the c6 is undriveable on the track with AH on/comp. I've had times where it cuts fuel and applies the brakes very hard in mid corner when the car was in perfect control and I had other times when the tail of the car was way outta shape and it never kicked in. The c5 system was very good the c6 system is terrible. This is just my opinion.
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From: NJ..."the way I saw it, everyone takes a beating sometimes."
Originally Posted by kelp
AH, TM, TC - turn it all off. The car feel is so much safer and more stable without them, you can feel what it does. Just be sensible. If you really can't resist the gas, better use the trailer wheels.
The only unpredictable element is brake lock up, therefore keep that on. That might be due to the tires, or brakes, I don't know. Try it both ways and see.
The only unpredictable element is brake lock up, therefore keep that on. That might be due to the tires, or brakes, I don't know. Try it both ways and see.
, at risk. Running with everything off on a hilly street is way to dangerous IMO. At the track or a real open area without possibility of collision is up to you. But on the street....
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Originally Posted by john_sblendorio
what settings do people typically run for track days? Competitive mode?
Originally Posted by 02impactblue
Based on my track experience with the c6 the AH is very unpredictable. I always ran the c5 in comp mode but the c6 is undriveable on the track with AH on/comp. I've had times where it cuts fuel and applies the brakes very hard in mid corner when the car was in perfect control and I had other times when the tail of the car was way outta shape and it never kicked in. The c5 system was very good the c6 system is terrible. This is just my opinion.
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From: Shiloh Ohio
When AH is working on a sweeping turn it is difficult to feel unless you really start to get out of shape. I think yours is working properly.
I agree with Ranger also, keep it on. I totaled an 03 coupe with it off. I think it may have saved me if I had left it on.
Most important, if you turn if off don't forget about it. That is what bit me in the a$$.
I agree with Ranger also, keep it on. I totaled an 03 coupe with it off. I think it may have saved me if I had left it on.
Most important, if you turn if off don't forget about it. That is what bit me in the a$$.
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From: Shiloh Ohio
Originally Posted by kelp
AH, TM, TC - turn it all off. The car feel is so much safer and more stable without them, you can feel what it does. Just be sensible. If you really can't resist the gas, better use the trailer wheels.
The only unpredictable element is brake lock up, therefore keep that on. That might be due to the tires, or brakes, I don't know. Try it both ways and see.
The only unpredictable element is brake lock up, therefore keep that on. That might be due to the tires, or brakes, I don't know. Try it both ways and see.
Second paragraph does not make sense. You can not control the mode the brakes are in. Unless you are referring to AH. But your ABS system stays on all the time.
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After reading the extensive pros and cons posted about AH, it can be derived:
- The system is very complicated
- This is a widespread application of new technology
- Few entirely understand it
- The results are variable at best
- Some people received life-saving results
- Some people received life-threatening results
and
- Opinions are very decisive on this topic
Everyone has a different driving style, application, vehicle, modifications.
The decision to use the AH program involves evaluating one's individual particular requirements, evaluating insurance endorsement requirements, their experience with, and knowledge of the AH system.
- The system is very complicated
- This is a widespread application of new technology
- Few entirely understand it
- The results are variable at best
- Some people received life-saving results
- Some people received life-threatening results
and
- Opinions are very decisive on this topic
Everyone has a different driving style, application, vehicle, modifications.
The decision to use the AH program involves evaluating one's individual particular requirements, evaluating insurance endorsement requirements, their experience with, and knowledge of the AH system.