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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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Just had the car dynotuned today, mods are Ameaican Racing Headers w/ high flow cats, Corsa Sport, Halltech Intake, also added new plugs and wires before the tune. Had HP Sales in Pompano install the headers and Mike Norris do the tune.

Stock was 329HP / 330 FTLB
Before tune 378.4 HP / 358 FTLB
After tune 397.1 HP / 390 FTLB

I will post dyno sheets as soon as I have access to a scanner. These sound to pretty high to me, however, ill dyno it again in December on the same dyno I ran my stock numbers on and see what that tells me. As of now im extremely happy with this setup and the numbers.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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WOW...very impressive numbers you put up. From your before dyno results, it seems you have an A6 C6, is that correct? I ask because my stock M6 put up 350/350 and I plan on those same mods, just with Bullets, and don't think those mods will give me an additional 70HP and 60TQ. I figured that i would be around 390/390 afterwards, or I hope anyhow.

Congrats on those numbers again!!


Ah, I see you have an 05, an A4 then I assume??
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 01:19 AM
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Great numbers, but I'm betting it's a Manual tranny. If it's an A6, then those numbers are fantastic. If it's a manual, then the car was most likely hot when it was run stock and that's why the numbers are so low. I've never seen headers pick up 49 rwhp before. Also, did you change out to a 160 stat? Also, you picked up 19 hp with a tune? That is the most I've seen so far.

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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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He has a manual tranny, I looked it up in his profile and saw a pic in one of his posts.
Sorry for invading your privacy. lol

Are they 1&3/4" or 1&7/8" headers?

Did you go with the 2&1/2" or 3" x-pipe?

Great numbers by the way!!!

I am currently in the market for LT headers and American Racing seems the way to go.

I already have Corsa Sports and am thinking of a Halltech style air intake.

So your choices are very relevant to my decision.

Thanks,

Howard

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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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i think those might be std numbers not sae, can you comfirm? what kind of dyno. Nice numbers BTW
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Ya I have 1&7/8 w/3" X-pipe, M6, no thermostat and the car was cold when I ran the stock dyno... although it was like a million degrees outside that may have something to do with it.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Extreme heat would kill your #s, the dyno tries to compensate, but your car still can't make the same power in with HOT air.

Good point,

STD #s would be about 7-8rwhp/rwtq high and then the #s would be a little more in line with others.

Even still, they are GREAT #s!

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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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[QUOTE=yell03]He has a manual tranny, I looked it up in his profile and saw a pic in one of his posts.
Sorry for invading your privacy. lol

Your personal profile is used for creditability also. There's nothing wrong with what you did. There are some that elect to hide their entire identity, which I don't understand. Just a personal opinion.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Where did you get the headers from? Those gains seem pretty high.Ive seen alot of guys on this with your mods and a cam who are only 5 to 10 hp more.I only had 333rwhp pretune with my c6,6spd with catback and halltech and then was at 357rwhp with a tune.The tuning is where its at on these cars I think.I might have to get some headers now though.Does the headers sound alot louder compared to stock?My bullets are damn loud already.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Great numbers anyway you look at it. A.R. Headers= affordability without compromises. Good luck with your ride.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Holy Cow!! I just got back from dropping my C6 off at Horsepower Sales in Pompano for American Racing Headers, 3:90 gears, hardened shaft and DTE brace. Man those 3" pipes are HUGE. Headers look great too. These are some incredible numbers! I hope I'm close to that. I've got a goal of 400 rwhp and 11.99 without a cam, and you're basically there on the rwhp front!

You should join us at the Corvette Challenge at Moroso on Sept 2 and see what that thing will do. I won't have a tune by then but I should have enough miles on my gears to see what I can do. My best so far is 12.55 @112. Hope to meet you there!
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Great numbers For what it's worth those numbers are corrected, and Mike tunes on the very conservitive side. Hope to see you out there at Moroso with us next Saturday night.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Hey guys,what did they charge for the headers/cats and install.Also,what did the 390 gears run you with install.I might have to head up there.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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does horsepower sales have a website? Where is it if Im coming from 95 in fort lauderdale?
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I also got a Dynotune at Horseower sales by Mike Norris,and I wish I hadn't!!! My car Dynoed at 363.2 horse and 357.6 Torque with Kooks L.T.'s hi-flow cats,Halltech SSM,160 thermostat,Calloway Double D exhaust---before the tune,,,then 364.7 horse,and 360.0 Torque with the tune!!! I know the computer resets itself , but only getting 1.5 horse,and 2.4 Torque for the $400.00 it costs for the tune!!,I feel like I wasted the money!!!
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What kind of dyno and SAE? STD? Has to be nice having a bit more aggressive tune with better octane than crappy 91.
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Old Aug 26, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by silvre c6
I also got a Dynotune at Horseower sales by Mike Norris,and I wish I hadn't!!! My car Dynoed at 363.2 horse and 357.6 Torque with Kooks L.T.'s hi-flow cats,Halltech SSM,160 thermostat,Calloway Double D exhaust---before the tune,,,then 364.7 horse,and 360.0 Torque with the tune!!! I know the computer resets itself , but only getting 1.5 horse,and 2.4 Torque for the $400.00 it costs for the tune!!,I feel like I wasted the money!!!
Same over here when I went to them for the install and tune of Lg Lt headers and bullets I only got 336rwhp 332tq. When I saw the dyno sheet I was like what the f**k I was expecting 360 to 370 and I was totally disappointed. Jeremy than told me that since my car was an A4 that it was hard to get the most power on the dyno from it. At first I was like how can that be, but than most people would tell me that my 2.73 stock gears were the ones that caused this to happen. Can anybody offer their info to whether this true?

P.S. Don't get me wrong I will still be going to HPsales for all my installation needs, but I don't know about the tuning.
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Same over here when I went to them for the install and tune of Lg Lt headers and bullets I only got 336rwhp 332tq. When I saw the dyno sheet I was like what the f**k I was expecting 360 to 370 and I was totally disappointed. Jeremy than told me that since my car was an A4 that it was hard to get the most power on the dyno from it. At first I was like how can that be, but than most people would tell me that my 2.73 stock gears were the ones that caused this to happen. Can anybody offer their info to whether this true?

P.S. Don't get me wrong I will still be going to HPsales for all my installation needs, but I don't know about the tuning.
A4 will always dyno lower than a 6 speed. If you change gears it will dyno even lower.
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Originally Posted by 16Again
A4 will always dyno lower than a 6 speed. If you change gears it will dyno even lower.
So that means that if I would have dynoed it before the headers and exhaust it would have been in the 300 to 320 rwhp range? And if it weren't the gears that had part in it than what was the cause for a low dyno with the headers and exhaust?

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So that means that if I would have dynoed it before the headers and exhaust it would have been in the 300 to 320 rwhp range? And if it weren't the gears that had part in it than what was the cause for a low dyno with the headers and exhaust?
I'm not an expert but from trolling on LS1Tech.com, it seems that lower gears, like the 3:90's I'm putting in, cause lower dyno numbers due to the gear reduction and inefficiency. I hadn't heard that high gears like yours do it too but Jeremy sees a lot of dynos so he should know. Also, if you've got aftermarket wheels I've heard that makes the dyno lower, particularly if they are oversize tires or runflats. Those wheels & tires are HEAVY and I understand the inertia they hold hurts the inertia dyno #'s. Hmmm. Maybe I'll dyno with my ET Streets... those things are LIGHT! Easily 1/2 the weight of my stock wheels and runflats, and aftermarket wheels are even heavier.

Also, unfortunately, there is luck of the draw with factory builds too. I've seen C5 Z06's range from 350 to 382 in our Challenge Group, all with headers, intake and Mike Norris tunes. Some cars just respond better for some reason. My C5 was low from the factory - 300 rwhp on an mn6. Cam and heads picked it right up to 404.
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