I need some honest input if you will.

I am SERIOUSLY ready to supercharge my C6.

The C6 runs hot, everyone knows it. The AtI/procharger setup has an after cooler that sits in front of the radiator. Not good, I believe.

The ATI/procharger does post some great numbers at peak HP, but I think I like the HP and torque gains at the lower RPM range and, no heat issues. From what I have seen, the heat exchanger sits below the radiator on the Maggie.

PLUS, Magnusson offers a power train warranty for the kit.

Can I get some feedback on both? Has anyone here on the forum has experience with both?

Has anyone ever had to ask Magnuson to cover a drivetrain issue after install?????

Thanks much.

 

Got a Magnuson on mine and I LOVE it!!
Price is somewhere around $6,800.00 for polished one,plus around $1,500.00 for install,$1,400.00 hood,$800.00 paint
Total:$10,000.00 or so!!

 

15k miles w/ maggie and no issues, Ran her all day at WOT 20 min. sessions at a time at Buttonwillows in 105 degree weather and no real issues. When she got warm I'd use higher gears and she'd cool down in 2 mins. I would recomend for road track use a bigger after market radioator. Drag no need, street use onle no need. Love mine, you'll enjoy yours either way.- Maggie makes huge low end torque for great SOYP feel.

 

Honest opinion please-

Would a Maggie equipped C6 with no other mods (not even tires) be able to run with a NEW Z06.

We are looking for a car that can run approximately 11.5@125+.

How about highway power, faster or slower than a NEW Z06?

Only mods I have so far are Corsa Sports and a K&N aircharger.

I have been considering headers, but I might just wait and do a Maggie next year if used Z06 prices have not come down.
Plus, there is something nice about a personalized car.

Also, I am pretty sure the Maggie warranty is only for the engine, not the drivetrain. Does anyone know for sure?

Howard

 

http://www.magnacharger.com/pdf/legal-warranty.pdf

Every manufacturer will warranty the product (Procharger, Vortec, APS, Lingenfelter, etc.) But this is the first I've heard of warranty on the "powertrain", and I find it difficult to believe... I'd say leave warranty out of the decision making process and go with whatever FI system you like best, considering all of them can be had for right around $10k or less installed...


I figure the Z06 has the advantage on power, weight and aerodynamics, as well as traction in stock form. Figure a maggie will even up the odds for power, adding what, about 130 HP? Then you need wider tires, etc. etc. On the highway you might be able to hang, but I don't know about the strip...??? It's possible.

 

I think we met at Andy's, but I did not have a chance to check out your ride. Who did your install?

 

Just did a brief scan of the magna warranty (link above) and noticed that it is limited to $3k for engine failure and $2k for tranny. Not sure you can replace or repair a major LS2 failure for $3k. But then, it doesnt sound like anyone has had to yet... hmmm, 130hp would be nice..

 

125 will get you into the 10's with traction.
Do you want the mph or ET???? Big difference.

 

CYA-Vett -

I want the mph, sticky tires will provide the et if necessary.

Like I said, 11.5@125+ and I would be happy.

My 92 LX Vert was a 10 second car on DRs with only 124.5 traps, of course it broke before I nailed the launch on the last pass to get the 10second pass
1st pass was a 1.66 but spun the 1-2 shift, 2nd pass was a 1.81 60' and a clean pass at 11.22, another 1.66 and it would have been 10.9s for sure

I don't want to compromise handling on my C6.

Howard

 

Obviously what everybody knows about Maggie vs. Procharger is true, and not up for debate. A Magnacharger is good for someone who plans on staying with "bolt ons" because they'll make good instant power/torque off the line since they're designed to have low rpm efficiency. The Procharger is pretty much the opposite....

So you just need to decide what your plans are for the future of your car. If you ever plan on upgrading to bigger cam, ported heads, or a forged stroker motor, I would seriously consider the Procharger because ultimately it will make the most power and stay efficient. A Magnacharger will have a harder time keeping up with the more things you do internally to your engine.

Prochargers on street cars still work great no matter what anybody try's to say. I just did a C5 yesterday with American racing headers, LS6 cam, and a D1SC that made 546 through an automatic transmission unlocked. The customer was very happy and loves the way it drives. Then the other day we did a C6 with a C cam, American racing headers, and 5# pulley that put down 580 through the A6.

So if you're looking for fun, a Procharger is still going to be every bit as fun as a Maggie imo. The only difference is that with a Maggie will give you a little more low end punch. So while you are spinning your tires off the line from all that low end power, I'll be puting car lengths on you with my Procharger that doesn't come on until a little higher RPM

Tire frier's are fun I guess, but I like winning races more. hehe

Chuck @ HPE
281-448-1300

 

So,can't the lack of low end power on a procharger be made up with the addition of headers?That was one thing I noticed on my c4 when I got it supercharged,nothing happened till after 3500 rpm's or so.

 

Here is my set-up:
Procharger D1SC w/60# injectors
AFR 225 Heads
Cam 224 230 581/592 114 LSA
4.75" Pulley
Corsa Sports
Dynatech Supermaxx Headers
Callaway Sport Shifter
160 Degree Thermostat
Tuned

It is my everyday ride. Now, here's my dyno chart, notice where the power curve starts. I have friends with maggies and others with Prochargers. We are all happy campers

BTW, check out the numbers

 

Is a new hood required with any choice of s/c? The stock lines are beautiful.

 

procharger - no
maggie - yes

 

Stock C6 w/ Magna vs Z06?

Z06 is approx 200 lbs lighter than a regular C6. The magna kit adds about 80 lbs to the car. Net difference of 280 lbs. That would require about 30 rwhp to make up for the difference in weight.

Stock C6 puts down approx 340 rwhp. Z06 puts down 440 rwhp. Net difference of 100 rwhp.

Magna adds approx 120 rwhp

340 + 120 - 30 = 430

So, about 10 rwhp shy of performing like a Z06, based solely on weight and power. Add some headers

 

I think the lack of traction with the smaller rubber on the C6 comapred to the Z06 will be the shortcoming.

I think the weight difference is only about 80lbs and the other 80lbs for the supercharger = 160lbs, so you will need 15rwhp to compensate,

So if a Z06 has 440rwhp and a C6 had 340rwhp, minus the 15rwhp = 325rwhp. Add 130rwhp = 455rwhp and you have a drivers race, but I think the lack of traction will be the downfall of the supercharged C6 from a dig.

From a roll or dig it would be a close one.

This says alot for the STOCK Z06

Howard

 

Yes it does!

Now if I could have gotten one for $65-$75k it would have been worth getting.

 

Callaway uses its own version of the Magna Charger in its 560 hp Callaway Corvette:



Some examples:

 

when r u taking the Calloway maggie car to LVD again???

 

We may have meet at Andy's ,but I wasn't at the BBQ!{WAS BUSY}
Magnuson actually did my install,it was thier first on an A6!
Any questions,pm me and I'll give you my #
George