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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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I have a navigation head unit from a friends 07 c6 and I was wondering if this will work in my base model 07 c6?

My only concern is that I don't think the base unit is a bose system. This is a problem in other lines that GM makes. They usually have both one for the bose and the non bose system.

If this will not work I am wondering if a Nav unit from a new Tahoe w/o the bose system will work...

I look forward to my new ownership of my new 07 c6 Lemans Blue!
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your best bet is to just get a pioneer avic Z1 or other unit that looks like stock but performs much better.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Indyberetta
I have a navigation head unit from a friends 07 c6 and I was wondering if this will work in my base model 07 c6?

My only concern is that I don't think the base unit is a bose system. This is a problem in other lines that GM makes. They usually have both one for the bose and the non bose system.

If this will not work I am wondering if a Nav unit from a new Tahoe w/o the bose system will work...

I look forward to my new ownership of my new 07 c6 Lemans Blue!
Ok, you're saying "base model", so I'll assume you mean 1LT. 2LT and 3LT trim levels give you the Bose system.

The OEM Nav will work, better, without the Bose. You will need to do some cutting and splicing to make the HU mate up with the non-Bose amp (only the 3LT cars have the right plugs to plug and play with the Nav), but you'll get all 4 channels in stereo instead of having the rears be mixed mono with the Bose amp. Big win in my opinion. Now all you'll need is better speakers.

Do realize that the Nav won't navigate without the Nav GPS antenna. That goes under the dash pad above the left center A/C vent. You should have got that when you got the HU, if not, go back and get it because it won't be there in a non-Nav car.

Since you're 1LT, you won't have the HUD, so you don't have to worry about adapting that interface. You won't have XM antennas in your mirrors either, so retroing in XM will require a wart.

Since this is a used unit, you will have to go to the dealer to get the anti-theft system reprogrammed to let the HU work in your car (it stores and compares the VIN of the car in which it was originally installed with the VIN stored in the BCM of the car in which it is now located each time it starts up, if they don't match, and they won't until it is reprogrammed, it won't work). In some cases, the dealer may have to send the HU back to Denso to get it cleared before it'll work in your car.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Any idea on what wires will need to be cut and spliced? I am assuming that the actual plug is the same, but the order of the wires is different.

I do have the antenna for the nav unit that was also given to me from my friend.

All help is appreicated in getting this head unit into my new car!
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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Get an aftermarket system. Denso make good spark plugs but they know absolutely nothing about NAV systems. I still can't believe I got rid of a perfectly good C5 just to get a built in NAV that doesn't know where home is.
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Weird, my factory NAV works well. No issues with it in over 7,000 miles. I would like to be able to enter data while moving but the lawyers have seen to it that it won't happen.
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Weird, my factory NAV works well. No issues with it in over 7,000 miles. I would like to be able to enter data while moving but the lawyers have seen to it that it won't happen.
Compared to Garmin products, especially the C330, it is user unfriendly. Mine will get you where you want to go in most cases but it will do things like take a dogleg from a straight course and then bring you back to the same road. In many cases it can't distinguish addresses on the right or left side of the road. My home is on a short private road and no matter how I set that position, the NAV will stop about 200 yds. short.

Last week, when I had to visit about a dozen clients in a large development, I gave up on the NAV and used the C330.

If it works for you that is good but for my door to door work, it has been useless. Even if I didn't have the C330 to compare to, I can't depend on it.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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speaking of nav systems, did any of you see the Rover commercial where it flies the airplane? I thought it was awesome. I'm not sure what type of GPS it is, but it also has a thing on the website that lets you play with it. you can select a city and a shape and it will overlay the shape onto the map and create a route for you - pretty cool.
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WEF, which route do you usually select? Quick, short, or normal? As far as your drive way and the commerical park, makybe the next CD update will have the data on it for these. Maybe not. I wonder if it would pick it up better if you had it zoomed in to the smallest increment possible in the window and then marked "Home"?

The dog leg and then return to the same road MAY be the result of the NAV being on the "shortest" selection which would take you off the main route to shorten the distance and then return.

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Boomer,

Borrow a Garmin for a few days and give it some difficult tests. You don't even need the manual to figure it out. Even though the map is on a smaller screen, it is easier to read. Forget the $1100 price difference, the Garmin is far and away a superior unit. Firmware updates have been free and since I've had the C330 for over a year the map update does cost $75. Compare that to the outrageous price GM asks for an update.

I'm ASSuming Denso is owned by GM.
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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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I have had a series of Garmins over the years, curently have the GPSmap 176C. They are good tools. Really fun when we had out company plane etc.

I took the new 07 coupe on a 2600 mile trip to South Carolina then down to JAX, FL, back home. Had no issues with my NAV unit in the vette. Sorry yours is not providing what you want. But, again, if you select "shortest" route it might explain the dog leg it took you on and then returned you to the main highway later. But, I am sure you know that.

I am sure there are better ones out there, there always is.
For the trivia minded, Denso is a Japanese company, works closely with Lexus providing engine management controls, nav systems, display features for the dash, crash avoidance, and built the first point to point routing for auto market in 1991.

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Any answer to my question.?..I do not want an aftermarket system...
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Sorry I, or we, Hiijacked your post.

What Corvette Pilot said in the second reply to your post is more then likely the cheapest, least painful option. For instance, on "GM-trucks.com" forum there is a post there that I have been following for two years, over 80,000 views, where guys are trying to put NAV in high dollar trucks and suburbans that did not come out with them from the factory. If you want to find it do a search for "Linda" when you get to the forum and it will be probably the first one that comes up " NAV and 6 disk changer in a Silverado" . It is complicated, involves the dealers help ( which they don't like to do in these instances for this kind of mod) and can get expensive.

However, I am going to search within that forum again to find the name of two vendors that will know if it can be done and would possibly sell the proper interface for this mod. Seems like it was "pac-audio" Back to you later.
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Even though these guys specialize in Hummers, Caddy,s , Burbs, and Silverados, I really think they can steer you in the correct direction if not help you out with the project , if you really want to proceed. They sell complete units to change from non nav to NAV for a variety of vehicles. Please also read some, at least a few pages of the other forum I mentioned so you can get a feel for the kinds of questions you ought to ask.

"JP Customs.com" and you can call them at 281-533-9900.

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Originally Posted by corvette pilot
your best bet is to just get a pioneer avic Z1 or other unit that looks like stock but performs much better.
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The great thing is this guy is local. I also live in Houston!

I'll get the info and let the forum know the answer...
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What did they have to say?
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Did you find out?
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Use this:
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