anyone bypass shift to reverse yet?
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No, I think they are talking about putting it in reverse when you park it. After you put it in reverse, you cross your fingers and hope it takes so that the battery is not dead when you get in the next time. 05 model only.
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You can shut down while in reverse, or you can shut down then shift to reverse. The first way is preferable, but not required.
After a few seconds in reverse after shutdown, you can move the shifter to any gear you want and exit the car. Use the parking brake of course. You can leave the car in any gear as long as the reverse gear has registered with the shut down sequence and the BCM. The new reflash helps with this.
Just make sure that the DIC message to 'shift to reverse' doesn't appear before you exit your car, and you're good to go.
I hope this helps.
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The '05 MN6 needs to see reverse gear for at least a few seconds before you exit the car.
You can shut down while in reverse, or you can shut down then shift to reverse. The first way is preferable, but not required.
After a few seconds in reverse after shutdown, you can move the shifter to any gear you want and exit the car. Use the parking brake of course. You can leave the car in any gear as long as the reverse gear has registered with the shut down sequence and the BCM. The new reflash helps with this.
Just make sure that the DIC message to 'shift to reverse' doesn't appear before you exit your car, and you're good to go.
I hope this helps.
You can shut down while in reverse, or you can shut down then shift to reverse. The first way is preferable, but not required.
After a few seconds in reverse after shutdown, you can move the shifter to any gear you want and exit the car. Use the parking brake of course. You can leave the car in any gear as long as the reverse gear has registered with the shut down sequence and the BCM. The new reflash helps with this.
Just make sure that the DIC message to 'shift to reverse' doesn't appear before you exit your car, and you're good to go.
I hope this helps.
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we need to find out what it was that gm did in 06 when they bypassed this. heck we could all be dealing with this just because people say get used to it and it could be as simple as the skip shift bypass.
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It bugs me but I must admit I'm getting used to it. I always parked the C5 in first.
A little info on the legality of it here: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...hlight=reverse
The flippin' XM wart bothers me more... I woud like a vendor to come out with a wart removal kit but it would be a limited market.
A little info on the legality of it here: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...hlight=reverse
The flippin' XM wart bothers me more... I woud like a vendor to come out with a wart removal kit but it would be a limited market.
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You just can't remove or bypass the column lock in the '05. (easily)
There would be mechanical and software hell to pay if you did!
Maybe it could be done. Maybe not. It hasn't yet been done.
But it would be a large and technical undertaking, and I don't think that there would be owner support if the price was too high for the conversion.
Most all owners have gotten used to the reverse requirement.
And the BCM reflash is most likely successful in eliminating DBS.
The CAGS was obviously designed with an easy aftermarket bypass in mind...
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What's the big deal? It's always smart to "park" a manual tranny in gear rather than depend only on the parking brake....same as putting an auto in "Park". So what difference does it make if you use Reverse instead of First? The real PITA with the '05's (& I have one) is that the shut down sequence of the on board electronics is tied to "Shut Down in Reverse" & due to some still unknown gremlin, that doesn't always work, leading to the dreaded "DBS".....otherwise known as Dead Battery Syndrome. If you have an '05 MN6, you should keep a battery charger handy. 
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What's the big deal? It's always smart to "park" a manual tranny in gear rather than depend only on the parking brake....same as putting an auto in "Park". So what difference does it make if you use Reverse instead of First? The real PITA with the '05's (& I have one) is that the shut down sequence of the on board electronics is tied to "Shut Down in Reverse" & due to some still unknown gremlin, that doesn't always work, leading to the dreaded "DBS".....otherwise known as Dead Battery Syndrome. If you have an '05 MN6, you should keep a battery charger handy.
My 80 C3's parking brake gave out once. I got a knock on my door and some guy tells me the Vette was in the middle of the street! It had rolled into it from my driveway and luckly no one was coming. Since then all my manuals go into reverse before I leave them.
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i live in florida so pretty much everywhere i go it gets parked in nuetral and e brake goes on as there are no hills. but i guess if its the column lock thats attributing to this then it will be a fairly large undertaking. ive already had the car to the dealership once for a new battery after it left me stranded 3 times in 1 week. it never got reflashed though.
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i live in florida so pretty much everywhere i go it gets parked in nuetral and e brake goes on as there are no hills. but i guess if its the column lock thats attributing to this then it will be a fairly large undertaking. ive already had the car to the dealership once for a new battery after it left me stranded 3 times in 1 week. it never got reflashed though.
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Not easy to do because the 05 has the previous generation computer and the 06 has the next generation computer, so you can't just swap out computers. With that being said, I can't believe that someone hasn't found a way to reprogram the 05 computer to eliminate the park in reverse issue. Everyone appears to have solved the skip shift issue........
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Not easy to do because the 05 has the previous generation computer and the 06 has the next generation computer, so you can't just swap out computers. With that being said, I can't believe that someone hasn't found a way to reprogram the 05 computer to eliminate the park in reverse issue. Everyone appears to have solved the skip shift issue........
Or complexity.
CAGS seems to have been designed with an easy aftermarket bypass already in mind.
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What's the big deal? It's always smart to "park" a manual tranny in gear rather than depend only on the parking brake....same as putting an auto in "Park". So what difference does it make if you use Reverse instead of First? The real PITA with the '05's (& I have one) is that the shut down sequence of the on board electronics is tied to "Shut Down in Reverse" & due to some still unknown gremlin, that doesn't always work, leading to the dreaded "DBS".....otherwise known as Dead Battery Syndrome. If you have an '05 MN6, you should keep a battery charger handy.
