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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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Hi all,
Can some one please tell me if all the C6 autos are 6 speed paddle auto on the steering wheel, or what year did they come in?

And what was the auto stick shift, was that just 4 speed auto, or 3 speed and overdrive.

Generally are the 6 speed paddle on the steering wheel easier, and are they make it a faster vehicle.

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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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2005: A4
2006-2007: A6 with paddle shifters
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Hi,

So stock for stock

0 to 60
and 0 to 100

is the 6 speed quicker?
A4 or A6
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Old Feb 7, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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A6 by a fraction.
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A6 is faster than M6 in autocross, but M6 is faster than A6 in drag.
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Originally Posted by 2006c6keller
but M6 is faster than A6 in drag.
While the list at the top of the page may state otherwise, I do agree with you.
On the same track on the same day with equally good drivers, the manual C6 LS2 should beat the similarly optioned automatic C6 LS2 nearly every time, especially in trap speeds.
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Old Feb 8, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Hi,
So I really wont be autocrossing, or living at the strip, I would say I would be more than happy with the auto.

Like I may have said earlier in other posts, I live mostly in the U.K., and that is where this new "vette will ship to, and as I have driven manual for 20 plus years, I now like the idea of auto.

Here is my 2002 WS6 in the U.K.

Last year a trip around Europe was very rewarding.



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I'm guessing the M6 has an overall advantage and postive feeling due to the better rear end ratio, but an A6 trany with a 3.54 rear end would be a sweet set up, and maybe a tranny cooler
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I really debated over the Manual and decided on the auto. Love the paddle shifter, good quick shifts.
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Or even an A6 with a 2.73 ala 2008.
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Originally Posted by 2006c6keller
A6 is faster than M6 in autocross, but M6 is faster than A6 in drag.

I tend to disagree....

paddle shifting is tons of fun on the road, "s"mode is great fro the strip ot daily driving. In "S", I wholly belive the A6 is quicker than the M6. The trap MPH may be higher for a manual, but I get there quicker.

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Originally Posted by Evilways

I tend to disagree....

paddle shifting is tons of fun on the road, "s"mode is great fro the strip ot daily driving. In "S", I wholly belive the A6 is quicker than the M6. The trap MPH may be higher for a manual, but I get there quicker.
Hopefully this will help you out.

In an article in Corvette Quarterly, Spring 2006, tiltled THUMBSUP! by John L. Stein, p. 22-28, it stated after running numerous tests with both the M6 and A6 here is their conclusion: "So until further notice, the stopwatch provides the conclusion we wanted: Race the manual on the tract, and wield the new 6-speed paddle shift automatic on the autocross," p28.

This is a very good article and goes into alot of details, I'll let you review their numbers in the article. I haven't seen any other articles in any of the other car magazines comparing the two transmissions, I go to Border's at least twice a month to review the auto issues. If you find a more current report and it has definite numbers, please post and give reference so we all may review. Some of the numbers they are posting on Europeans sports cars between auto shifts are astonishing. One great big advantage of the auto is that it doesn't miss shifts, very critical in autocross times, can't say that for the manual.
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In the hands of very good drivers the mn6 is quicker in the 1/4. However they are so close that most drivers will find themselves behind the a6 because the automatic is simple to launch and the stick requires far more experience. I have manuals in two other cars but I really like the c6 better with the a6.
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Originally Posted by 2006c6keller
Hopefully this will help you out.

In an article in Corvette Quarterly, Spring 2006, tiltled THUMBSUP! by John L. Stein, p. 22-28, it stated after running numerous tests with both the M6 and A6 here is their conclusion: "So until further notice, the stopwatch provides the conclusion we wanted: Race the manual on the tract, and wield the new 6-speed paddle shift automatic on the autocross," p28.

This is a very good article and goes into alot of details, I'll let you review their numbers in the article. I haven't seen any other articles in any of the other car magazines comparing the two transmissions, I go to Border's at least twice a month to review the auto issues. If you find a more current report and it has definite numbers, please post and give reference so we all may review. Some of the numbers they are posting on Europeans sports cars between auto shifts are astonishing. One great big advantage of the auto is that it doesn't miss shifts, very critical in autocross times, can't say that for the manual.
Thats cool info, and i don't doubt their findings, but from what I've seen on the forums, and in real world experience, is that an experienced A6 driver can take an equally experienced M6 driver. Granted, it may be 6 out of 10 runs, but I do give the edge to the A6,even if they were dead-red equal, there is more of a chance of driver error in the manual. Good post
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I haven't seen a lot of C6 A4 or A6 guys swapping diffs but it is very popular in the C5 crowd. A stock C5 A4 with some 3.42's or even 3.73's and a stall converter is deep into the 12's. Always made me jealous. Best bang for the buck after a CAI.

But us C6 guys are already in the 12's M6, A4 or A6.
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Forgive my ignorance but does A6 = Paddles or can you get an A6 w/out paddles?
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Originally Posted by 5 Liter Eater
Forgive my ignorance but does A6 = Paddles or can you get an A6 w/out paddles?
A6=paddles
A4=reg auto shifter

as far as I know.
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Originally Posted by 5 Liter Eater
Forgive my ignorance but does A6 = Paddles or can you get an A6 w/out paddles?
Originally Posted by Evilways
A6=paddles
A4=reg auto shifter
as far as I know.
True. You cannot get an A6 (aka: 6L80E) in a Corvette (or even the trucks as well I think) without the paddles, though it might ultimately be available in some other vehicles without them.
The A4 (aka: 4L65E) never came from the factory with paddle shifting.
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In road racing we already know it takes .5 seconds minimum to row any Manual shifter.
If an A6 paddle can shift in .1 seconds with no lift then it should be faster if all else was equal.
but the rear end ratios favor the M6.

On paper, both cars with the same final drive ratio and similar gearing in the tranny, the A6 would be much faster on the upshifts...
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