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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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Those of us who also ride motorcycles aren't too freaked out at the thought of using non-runflats.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Buffy
The spray-can stuff will. The Conti stuff won't, although it may render them temporarily inoperable. It forms a film over the sensor that must be peeled off when the tire is repaired.
Is it worth the risk of getting one of these Conti kits and what is the price on them? Easy to use? It isn't related to Bill Conti Corvettes is it?
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by C6400hp
You have 505 HP what do you expect? If you had tires that lasted 20K you would spin the tires until 100mph.
Just because you have the power to do so doesn't always mean U have to use it. A wise man only uses power when needed and doesn't abuse his power. But those tires are shot
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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I really don't think my driving habits are any different with this new car vs my old car. Now, the new car might very well have a vaster tq area of the powerband, but a h/c 3.90 geared ls6 is no slouch. I could easily rotate the tires at will from a roll in 2nd gear (and I did many times ). my preliminary conclusion is runflats are crap for mileage
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BLU-BY-U
my preliminary conclusion is runflats are crap for mileage
My suspicion is that tire wear and mileage is most dependent on the rubber compound itself where it meets the road surface. Soft and grippy rubber will simply wear out faster. It may well be that the harder sidewalls of RF tires hasten the wear, but the difference in mileage reported between the two GY C6 runflats makes me think that the rubber (and possibly the tread pattern) itself is the main factor.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LS WON
Is it worth the risk of getting one of these Conti kits and what is the price on them? Easy to use? It isn't related to Bill Conti Corvettes is it?
No, its Conti as in Continental Tire. They're available from the Tire Rack for about $80; you have to go through a few menus to find them - start with "Tire Accessories", I think.

It weighs about 5 lb and fits into one of the rear compartments with enough room left for flashlight, pucks, wheel lock tool, etc. It has good instructions right on the unit, should be pretty easy to use even on a dark and stormy night.

Its supposed to fix a hole up to 1/4 inch, and the tire is good for 100 miles at 50 MPH or something like that - its not a permanent repair. The sealant is latex-based, once dried it can be peeled off the tire, wheel and sensor (of course you have to take the tire off to do this).

The sealant is good for about 4 years, then you replace that by getting a refill module - about $25 as I recall. Of course it works as a compressor and tire guage without using the sealant.

As to being worth the risk, well, I figure that there are a number of things that can go wrong, and there's only so much point in carrying backups. After all, we don't carry a spare engine or transmission! Or battery, which might be useful more often on these cars
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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I just don't like the OEM EMTs because they always feel so greasy to me. They are not confidence inspiring at all. I think it may be that even though they are supposed to be super soft (as a summer tire/high performance tire usually is) the super stiffness of the sidewalls with the run-flats cancels it out. They grip well, but they don't grib great. Seems like to me anyway. I've only had my car a month or so; but I do Autocross so I do understand feedback to some degree....

Insofar as wear is concerned... It's a high performance summer tire anyway so they are not for wear.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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Here's a really, really dumb question: Did the GM engineers design the suspension to work best with stiff side walls as is the case on run-flats? In other words, isn't a stiffer side-wall good for cornering cuz it won't roll in on the rim as much?

Obviously, I don't know shiot about why my C6 handles as well as it does.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DannyBoyC6
Here's a really, really dumb question: Did the GM engineers design the suspension to work best with stiff side walls as is the case on run-flats? In other words, isn't a stiffer side-wall good for cornering cuz it won't roll in on the rim as much?

Obviously, I don't know shiot about why my C6 handles as well as it does.
This would make sense but they probably do it for the weight savings and space and I have heard that by going to non-runflats the car will outperform the runflats in every performance category and last longer.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Hey LS - cute pup, the best breed. As for tires, I stay with run flats but carry the plug kit. These tires attract screws and nails like a magnet.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DannyBoyC6
Here's a really, really dumb question: Did the GM engineers design the suspension to work best with stiff side walls as is the case on run-flats? In other words, isn't a stiffer side-wall good for cornering cuz it won't roll in on the rim as much?

Obviously, I don't know shiot about why my C6 handles as well as it does.
You're right, the suspension (base or Z51) is designed to work with the tires that come with the car. That said, you can usually get slightly better ride and/or handling by going to non-runflats. For me, the advantages of the runflats outweigh the disadvantages; and I will stay with them. Also carry the small air compressor in trunk.

BTW, the run flat distances at 55 mph for the C5 were:
100 miles without any additional damage to the tires, usually repairable
200 miles if needed, but the tire is usually junk at that point.
I believe the C6 runflats are just half of that- 50 miles/ 100 miles. That's how the got the ride so much better than the C5.
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Old Feb 22, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rckt
Hey LS - cute pup, the best breed. As for tires, I stay with run flats but carry the plug kit. These tires attract screws and nails like a magnet.
thanks he is quite a handful...aka: The pidler
It seems most of the people are sticking with the runflat type of tires.
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