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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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I have an 05 z51 A4 with almost 30k. Brought into shop 2 weeks ago for a chirping noise under the hood. It only occured at start up and very low acceleration (5-15mph). Belt was in good condition but dealer took 1 1/2 weeks to replace belt. Drove off this past Friday and car was fine. Drove 55 miles and when I stopped, the chirping noise was back - and louder. Drove back another 55 miles this morning (Mon) and could hear the screeching noise while driving all the way to 75mph. When I was at idle, no noise. My serviceman was awestruck and didn't have an answer for me.

Anyone have any opinions on what the problem might be?

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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Sounds like a loose belt to me.

Why did it take them so long to change a belt?
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 01:32 AM
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Shouldn't take that long to replace belt, is the water pump possibly squealing? To help water pump seal I put in anti-rust water pump lubricant. Are any other belts loose, tensioners, etc? I would definitely find a new dealer if you can, sounds not to swift.
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Old Feb 27, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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You may have a dry accessory bearing...alternator, AC compressor, etc. If the chirping is continuous at idle, your dealer tech needs to take a stethoscope and pinpoint the source. If one of those components freezes up because of bearing seizure, the belt WILL need replacing, and the car will probably have to be towed.
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Check the belt tensioner first (usually the problem) and the alternator second. Hope this helps
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Sounds a lot like the problem I had at 19,000 miles. Look at the crank pulley from the passenger side with a flashlight while the engine is idling. Focus on the ribbing. It should appear stationary while rotating not wobbling. Also, look at the track the belt makes on the water pump pulley that is smooth. You should see distinct stripes where the ribs of the belt have marked the pulley indicating a true running belt. If either of these situations does not exist the crank pulley is not running true and may have to be replaced. Check out my saga at http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1576952

Good luck.

I thought it was the tensioner at first since that's almost always what causes a squeaking belt. But most times you will hear that when you rev the engine and not while running at a constant rpm.

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Originally Posted by Bandit1
Check the belt tensioner first (usually the problem) and the alternator second. Hope this helps
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
Sounds a lot like the problem I had at 19,000 miles. Look at the crank pulley from the passenger side with a flashlight while the engine is idling. Focus on the ribbing. It should appear stationary while rotating not wobbling. Also, look at the track the belt makes on the water pump pulley that is smooth. You should see distinct stripes where the ribs of the belt have marked the pulley indicating a true running belt. If either of these situations does not exist the crank pulley is not running true and may have to be replaced. Check out my saga at http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1576952

Good luck.

I thought it was the tensioner at first since that's almost always what causes a squeaking belt. But most times you will hear that when you rev the engine and not while running at a constant rpm.
And this is an A4 too. I recall that most of the crank pulley failures occured in '05s with a propensity to hit the A4s though of course the manuals were fair game too.
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And this is an A4 too. I recall that most of the crank pulley failures occured in '05s with a propensity to hit the A4s though of course the manuals were fair game too.
Mine is a manual. Just to clarify. The crank bolt/pulley issue was not a failure and was for manual as well as automatics. It was the bolt coming loose under operation because of an improper (low) torque during factory assembly for the first ~10,000 units.
Apparantly I had a failure of the flexible rubber connection between the inner and outer hubs of the crank pulley (i.e. harmonic balancer) that caused the pulley to not run true and damage the belt resulting in the chirping. What made it so hard to diagnose was that when the belts were removed the pulley went back to a "normal" condition and took some more operation before the misalignment returned.

One of the old salty dog mechanics put a large, did I say large, screwdriver down into the ribs of the crank pulley while it was running and chirping and put side pressure on the pulley. While doing this the chirping changed pitch and would even disappear until the pressure was removed. Unfortunately this was done after everything else was replaced that "might" have been the problem.
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Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
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One of the old salty dog mechanics put a large, did I say large, screwdriver down into the ribs of the crank pulley while it was running and chirping and put side pressure on the pulley. While doing this the chirping changed pitch and would even disappear until the pressure was removed. Unfortunately this was done after everything else was replaced that "might" have been the problem.
Don't try this at home. Not a smart thing to do while the car is running. That large screwdriver could have flown back and imbedded itself into that salty dog mechanic's eye or forehead.
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Thanks to Walt White Coup!!! Called the technician and told him to check the crank pulley and alternator. He didn't agree that was the problem. An hour later I got the call saying the balancer was bad and they are replacing the alternator. Thanks to all for your help!
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Happy to be of help. I wonder how many more bad pulleys will develop after 20,000 miles.
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